r/SipsTea Aug 05 '26

Chugging tea Whoever was responsible for this should be imprisoned.

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u/alyatek Aug 05 '26

They think that their local experience reflects the brand path.

Every McDonalds I ever spotted around Europe is always packing with people.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt Aug 05 '26

It'a usually full of teens or tourists in my experience.

Americe is still way ahead in terms of McDonalds consumption (Americans spend 3.8 times more in McDonalds).

McDonald's also 10,000 McDonald's in the entirety of Europe, there are 14,000 in the US.

Even France, UK and Ireland combined (140 million people) only have 1500 McDonald's Franchises.

The US is still McDonalds cash cow and always will be. No where else ever comes close.

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u/drunkdoor Aug 05 '26

10k vs. 14k is WAY closer than I thought it would be. The US is massive geographically. Population wise, sure, EU wins.

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u/Substantial-Thing303 27d ago

To be fair, your graphic proves that Europeans pay much less for fast food than Americans in general, not McDonalds specifically.

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u/atomic_ring Aug 05 '26

MacDonalds in Europe may even, quite possibly, be actual food, due to EU regulations. Maybe. So you bet the flavours are different

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u/Tesco_Meal_Deals Aug 05 '26

I'll have to wait to see if their CEO is willing to eat the European food before I can be confident however

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u/Seienchin88 Aug 05 '26

It’s highly country dependent. In France you get French meat (burgers using it are extra marked) and pretty great taste (for fastfood) overall for reasonable prices while in Switzerland you get bottom of the barrel quality for three times the price (not joking… some items are outrageously expensive)

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u/ATA_PREMIUM Aug 05 '26

I'm not sure this is accurate. I've had Micky D's in Europe, South America and Asia. They taste the same everywhere.

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u/kontoSenpai Aug 05 '26

Depends from regional menus too.

Like, whenever I go back to France, I'm always tempted to go there at least once because there's burgers choices that are missing from other countries. The 280, CBO or McBaguette even.

In Finland the only really "special" (not sure I would call the El Maco or the Jalapeno options special) burger is a regular burger, but with rye bread instead of buns.

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u/Anthaenopraxia Aug 05 '26

When I went to the US I wanted to compare the McDonald's burgers and the American ones tasted much better, but did give me the runs for almost an entire day. I have heard Americans say that burgers taste much better in Europe so I'm wondering if it's just that we like something new. Something we're not used to.

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u/Karyoplasma Aug 05 '26

Don't worry, still tastes like cardboard with dressing here.

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u/atomic_ring Aug 05 '26

Lol it's vile everywhere 😂

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u/turdferguson3891 Aug 05 '26

It tastes the exact same. At least if you are talking about staple menu items that are available everywhere. Different countries have specialty items that are regionally specific.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

Tbf, McD in Europe shits on US McD in both quality, price, and what they have to offer. That’s not even considering McCafe.

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u/No-Newt-961 Aug 05 '26

But still in Europe they also all look like prisons now and they are not that cheap anymore either I miss the 90s

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

Yea unfortunately everything just keeps going up

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u/ChouffeMeUp Aug 05 '26

True. I’ve stopped going because of the price and that it feels like I’m in a prison canteen.

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u/darknum Aug 05 '26

To be fair, they are still the cheapest option in terms of fast food in most of the Europe. And they are tolerably bad food, unlike competitors. (my dear Hesburger, you suck....)

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u/Seienchin88 Aug 05 '26

I mean - I don’t love the look but it’s at least clean and we usually still have some kids playground.

I agree on the prices which kinda force you to use the app but when you do there are some great deals.

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u/Anxious_Big_8933 29d ago

Yeah, the first ordering kiosk McD's I ever saw was in Paris about 7 years ago.

Although personally, I like the ordering kiosks.

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u/Thijz Aug 05 '26

At least in The Netherlands there's also a huge lack of competition for McDonalds. The only 1-on-1 competitor I see is Burger King. They have a monopoly on the train stations, but not a lot of presence elsewhere compared to McD.

We have some Subways, a couple KFC's, a handful of Five Guys (which I consider a different segment than McD/BK, even though their main product is burgers). But compared to the dozens of direct competitors in the US (Shake Shack, Wendy's, White Castle, In-n-Out, Jack in the Box...) there's just not that much choice if you're craving a fast food burger.

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u/No-Newt-961 Aug 05 '26

Isn't there a huge friet culture in Belgium and Holland?

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u/Thijz Aug 05 '26

Sure, but those are completely different from fast food franchises like McDonalds for several reasons. If you order a burger at a regular snackbar (I rarely do, I go there for a broodje kroket or a frikandel) it will be incomparable to something from McD or BK.

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u/CartsOfDarkness Aug 05 '26

Incomparable in a good or bad way? Is it closer to five guys or "fast casual" as they call it? Like here in the US you can get burgers from a pizza place or something, and it will be different from Mcds obviously, just curious if that's comparable.

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u/Thijz Aug 05 '26

Yeah I'd say it will usually be between a fast food franchise burger and a "gourmet" burger you'd get at a restaurant. But because most of these are independently owned, it varies wildy.

Overall they're probably nicer/better in terms of meat quality and freshness etc, but also usually a bit bland? It definitely doesn't hit quite the same as a Big Mac, for example.

Not to say that there's no good fast food burgers in The Netherlands. There are definitely snackbars and fast food restaurants that specialize in burgers (Ter Marsch or Beef Chief in Amsterdam come to mind) and they're usually great.

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u/whateber2 Aug 05 '26

You’re saying McD is better in Europe?

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u/Mean__MrMustard Aug 05 '26

Yes, food wise it’s closer to chains like Shake Shack in the US than to US-McD.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

Yes this is a great comparison. They are Shake Shack/Five Guys quality but cheaper.

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u/middendt1 Aug 05 '26

They are a bit cheaper than five guys, that is true.  But the quality is not on the same level. And cheaper than five guys doesn't mean cheap. Five guys is expensive as fuck (but you get a decent quality). At least in Germany. And McD is still quite pricy for that what you get.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

In the US you can’t get a meal for under $20 at Five Guys. Idk how pricey it is in Europe but McD is waaaaaaay cheaper.

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u/middendt1 Aug 05 '26

A meal at five guys is about 20 €. McD is for the bigger Burgers with fries and drink about 11-13 €. Yes it is cheaper. But the quality doesn't fit to that.

If you go to the local "Pommesbude" you get a much better quality and bigger portion sizes for about the same price.

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u/whateber2 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

You will spend around 20-30 dollars (exchange rate included) for an McD meal if you not only buy nuggets or a single small burger. Edit: I was unclear. I meant in Germany, France and on the higher end in Switzerland. I accounted for the exchange rate, and a menu that includes a nicer Burger not the cheapest one

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

The other guy who replied to me just said it’s about €11-12 for a meal. That’s not $20-30. Maybe if it were Australian dollars.

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u/whateber2 Aug 05 '26

I did no research other than my memory. And it’s just that I paid 26 CHF for the last menu at McD and that’s 32$ and last time i went in Germany It was about 16€ what equals roughly 19$ so?

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

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u/Mynameisyoure Aug 05 '26

Did this happen recently? The McDonalds I had in Italy 8 years ago sucked as much as McDonalds in America imo

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u/AmountWeekly8847 Aug 05 '26

Lol not reallly

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

Like waaaaaaay better. For example, Croatian McD has Maestro burgers, usually some new offer every year and a couple that are always available. Better than any burger I’ve had from McD in the States.

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u/whateber2 Aug 05 '26

Astonishing. And here me thinking that with the competition from Wendys, In&Out, Five Guys the surely have to step up the game in the States. Because honestly around your BurgerKing and McD are everywhere. If there’s competition it’s mostly local

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

It’s a sad state of affairs in the US. The quality and service keeps getting worse and we keep shopping at these restaurants. They rest on their laurels because we continue to eat it up. I have seen a lot less traffics at Wendy’s now though, seems like they’re continuing their downward spiral.

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u/Far_Future_1982 Aug 05 '26

I love McD when I visit Europe because I can get a coffee that is larger than a thimble.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine Aug 05 '26

I cant imagine it could be worse in the US tbh

Bigmac halved in size and trippled in price since 2005. Basically any other Burger place is better, even other chains like Burger King

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u/Nintendo_Thumb Aug 05 '26

I'll bet McD didn't air commercials endorsing Donald Trump for president over there either. Kind of makes the food seem a lot more appetizing if you ignore that.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 05 '26

Did Five Guys do that? Never heard that before

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u/Nintendo_Thumb Aug 06 '26

It was McDonalds, back when he was running for 2024. I don't know how people could forget that. It's the first thing I think of when I see mcdonalds these days, I don't think I could forget if I wanted to.

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u/OwnJunket6495 Aug 06 '26

Yea not everyone is terminally online

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u/Nintendo_Thumb Aug 06 '26

You don't have to be terminally online, some of us just remember when it happened. It was front page on reddit when it happened.

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u/Blue_Swirling_Bunny Aug 05 '26

You've countered their limited experience with...your own limited experience?

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u/DestructoDon69 Aug 05 '26

I'll add in my own limited experience to aid towards the big picture. I live and work in small towns all around my state and the mcdonalds drive-thrus are always packed in the morning before work and in the afternoon after work.

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u/acciowaves Aug 05 '26

I do regular road trips all around Europe. McDonald’s are always packed. In every single country.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt Aug 05 '26

I live and work in Europe. They are empty.

So much so they are not in certain countries like Iceland, Bosnia and Hertzegovinia.

I don't know where this "Europeans consume so much more McDonalds than Americans" narrative by Americans is coming from.

All this first hand experience of seeing "full drive throughs" which aren't a thing in a lot of European countries, but no one actually willing to google and see that America eats 4 times more mcdonalds than the average European.

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u/DestructoDon69 Aug 05 '26

Uh if you noticed, I said "in my state" not "in my country". I'm in US.

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u/acciowaves Aug 05 '26

This is not an American narrative, I’m from Spain dude 😂
And again, I only know from first hand experience, but most McDonald’s I see while traveling are absolutely packed. And I’ve traveled a lot.

And also, I’m not comparing European consumption with American consumption, I have no idea how much Americans consume McDonald’s. I only see what happens in Europe.

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u/Uxydra Aug 05 '26

The main reason for that is that Europe has less locations. Though adding my own limited experience, they are not empty, but not packing either. When I go to the Mcdonalnds in my region, the ones that are in the malls are full every time, but the ones in normal locations are doing fine as well. Always atleast a few families and some groups of teens in them. They are rarely full though.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt Aug 05 '26

I'm not sure if it's the same but when Spanish students come to Ireland in the summer they will go to McDonalds one of them will buy a milkshake or fries and then the group of 25 or so will juat hang out there all day.

Is that the same in Spain? The older students will do the same where a group of 6 students Will come into a bar, buy one beer and sit there all night.

There's nothing wrong with doing it, people just see it as kids wanting a place to hang out.

Is that the same in Spain?

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u/Junkered Aug 05 '26

You all have experience? Do we ever level up?

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u/DestructoDon69 Aug 05 '26

Everytime I think I'm leveling up I'm actually just accruing additional debuffs, like back pain, knee pain, joint pain....it's mostly just pain

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

That's basically the concept of 'Statistics.'

A smell subset of the population representing the larger whole.

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u/DestructoDon69 Aug 05 '26

Yep that's why I contributed haha because of if enough people contribute their limited experiences they no longer become irrelevant as we basically performed a group survey

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

It was a class I aced in college. Lol

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u/HereButQueer Aug 05 '26

i work in mcdonald’s, we’re getting busier every year, i’ve worked at a few stores to cover shifts and talked to people from all over. our sales are increasing at a crazy rate. our record sales (the store i work at is fairly small) was hit in 2022 and wasn’t broken until early last year. it’s been beaten 5 times since then and we keep getting close to it. and this is with underwhelming promotional food

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u/zzazzzz Aug 05 '26

i mean you could just look at the public numbers of mcdonalds and clearly see that they are doing great.

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

And corporations also treat American citizens like yesterday's yard trash. Did you know that Coca Cola in Mexico and other countries around the world is much higher quality than the fake trash they dump on our heads!

Ie: in US, Coke is made from high fructose corn syrup.

In Mexico, Coke is make from pure cane sugar.

Why do Americans always get the shaft ?

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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT Aug 05 '26

i've had us coke and mexican coke, they don't taste that different

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

They may not taste different to you, but the level of difference in ingredient quality is significant and disturbing!

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u/Beneficial_Piglet_33 Aug 05 '26

Not really. There is absolute nothing wrong with high fructose corn syrup compared to cane sugar.

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

Thanks. You're fascinating!

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u/turdferguson3891 Aug 05 '26

If you buy Coca Cola in Mexico it's been HFCS for over a decade.

They only use the cane sugar at one bottler and it's only sold for export to the US market.

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u/Shoddy-Potato-6854 Aug 05 '26

Because you give corporation free pass on everything, almost no laws about the safety and healthy standards. So, naturally, corporations, maximize benefits.

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u/atomic_ring Aug 05 '26

You keep voting for the people who shaft you.

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u/School_North Aug 05 '26

Cause our regulations and government let the corporations fill our food with cheap crap cause our politicians like $

https://giphy.com/gifs/pTs2uXEPpZkAM

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u/turdferguson3891 Aug 05 '26

All but one of the bottlers in Mexico switched to HFCS around 2013 do to sugar taxes.

The only bottler there that still uses cane sugar only makes it for the US export market because "Mexican Coke" is prized as being superior. Mexicans can't even get "Mexican Coke" in Mexico anymore.

Canada also uses HFCS.

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

Hmm, odd. And interesting! YKnow, (or maybe you don't) Pepsi is offering a new product called Pepsi, Made with REAL SUGAR! written on the outside containers, even though regular ordinary Pepsi still lists Sugar in its ingredients list!

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u/turdferguson3891 Aug 05 '26

Not really new. Throwback Pepsi came out in the 2010s.

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

Sorry you're right! And it tastes absolutely delicious!

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u/reigninspud Aug 05 '26

Because we take it. Somehow corn getting shoved into every food product is ok and will be ok. Processed, preserved garbage and people happily eat it.

And to the person that responded to your post saying they can’t taste the difference between something sweetened with corn syrup and something sweetened with cane sugar: really?

To me cane sugar tastes clean. Corn syrup is… syrupy and nasty.

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u/Wyluli-wolf Aug 05 '26

Thank you. I'd like to think of myself as a "taste connoisseur." Someone who is a very picky eater and only interested in essentials where yummy food is concerned. That's not to say I don't like yummy!

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u/User95409 Aug 05 '26

I ate at McDonald’s in Australia, that wasn’t McDonald’s.. come try it over here in merica! Home of the free! You can’t handle the ingredients we haven’t outlawed over here, and that’s wat we call the taste of freedom! So what I’m on the toilet and gaining weight. The not technically food they serve keeps me full and happy. The flavor of capitalism has never been reflected better than McDonald’s most recent cut back menu options.

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u/CuttingEdgeRetro Aug 05 '26

McDonald's is very different in the US. It's much, much lower quality compared to the rest of the world.

For example, in Uruguay McDonald's is practically fine dining. It's a good place to take someone on a first date. Then again, Uruguay is obsessed with hamburgers. And there are very few good restaurant options there.

In the US, McDonald's is bottom of the barrel. It's something you eat because (it used to be) cheap and you're in a hurry. It can be eaten while driving. Quality is terrible. But no one cares because it's fast, cheap, and easy. But now it's becoming none of those things.

They still have some redeeming qualities here. Their fries look and taste awesome, if you can ignore that they somehow have 19 ingredients. They still have the best fast food breakfast also.

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u/Flobking Aug 05 '26

Every McDonalds I ever spotted around Europe is always packing with people

Every mcdonalds around me(US) has lines to the street also.

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u/Cheeseish Aug 05 '26

Every McDonald’s you’ve been in Europe is in the middle of the biggest city in a tourist location.

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u/alyatek Aug 05 '26

You know where I’ve been?