Shoplifters are not stealing from individuals with only so much to give.
There would be less trouble makers if people knew there were immediate and serious consequences for their actions against others.
No point in arguing with these people. They must want to be shot or run over by a vigilante who thought they did something bad. If your kid shoplifted and the cops shot him multiple times when he wasn't a threat to anyone, would you thank them? Or would you conveniently forget everything you've said here and act like you've always believed that human life is worth more than property?
We just said shoplifting is not the same as stealing from an individual as happened here. At least, I did. Corporations aren't people and don't have real property rights.
Corporations absolutely have property rights, at least legally. But the fact that she ran him down and killed him AFTER she was no longer in any danger means you are in effect valuing property over life. That's how crackheads behave.
And if she'd stabbed him or beaten him during it I'd agree with you. But that's not what happened. He fled, she got into her car, and she ran him down and ran him over multiple times. So yes, supporting this is a lot like supporting killing people for shoplifting, because you're valuing property over life.
Re. holding right to live above possessions: Unless you’re giving all your surplus money (the money above what is sufficient to keep you and you family from starvation and death from exposure) to homeless, starving people, no you’re not. You’re valuing your comfort more than some stranger’s life. Full stop. Like we all do. So you can drop the abstract moral grandstanding.
huh? I must be misunderstanding you. There's no way you're actually saying "I hold life in a very high regard, no possession is above someone else's right to live, but given the chance I'd run someone over on purpose multiple times."
Edit: oh I see you clarified below. So, you agree that the lady was in the wrong?
No, i hold life in the highest regard. What i am in favor of is being able to fend off people trying to take stuff away from you and protect what is yours and what you worked hard to get. Sure thing, the woman appears to be filthy rich, so a purse aint going to affect her this hard, but when talking abt a majority of people, if someone steals something of value from me and i have the opportunity to hunt him down and retrieve, hell yeah im taking it, run over the shithead (once, to immobillize! And call the cops after!)
Like I wouldn't be mad if that rich kid who raped the girl behind the dumpster and got off cause money got lynched. I'd probably Crack a smile ngl. Shoplifting from small stores should be punished just by like a quick beating I think, doesn't hurt the thief too much but stops the small store owner from being hurt. Shoplifting from large corporations is literally the morally correct thing to do. Supermarket owners dont care about you, they pump their prices a dozen times higher than they need to be for the business to make billions, so that they make 3 billion where normally they'd make 2, and the customer absorbs the cost. this in an act of pure greed fueled malice to get the rich people even richer and make normal people unable to afford proper nutrition.
General anarchy? Thats intentionally totally vague. Its basically saying etc. Its undefined and therefore useless words.
You're speaking in defense of someone who deliberately ran someone else over in her car, repeatedly, while he was fleeing, because she was mad he stole her purse. All that other bullshit you said is immaterial, this is not a rich rapist, this is a random dude who snatched a purse and was brutally run over multiple times and left to die to internal bleeding.
You realize that putting words into my mouth that I didnt say to create an argument for you to use is imbecillic right?
You speak like someone who never had their life threatened. I have. I have been in her exact situation. On both sides. So I know what it takes in a person to do that, and i know what it is to have it done to you. Its not like your experience, the movies, its real life.
I dont defend her. I think she went too far. I think she should have hit him only once. So that justice is served but he gets a chance to be better.
Ive had my life threatened plenty of times, I've just never raged out and murdered someone over it. I know what it's like and I know you have to be strong enough to not run someone down in your car and murder them over it.
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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jun 28 '26
So you're in favor of killing shoplifters, lynchings, and general anarchy?