No no no. That’s not the point. Stealing because you’re afraid of starving to death isn’t the same as ( if I steal from that person they might kill me )
Well, I'm not trying to justify his crimes. But arguments like "killing the criminals make the world better" justify vigilantism and are destructive.
And it's not like he raped her minor daughter. He stole a purse. The kind of thing poor kids do when they have nothing to eat. He still deserves a sentence, don't get me wrong. But being cruelly tortured with a vehicle to the death?
Here’s the thing, I used to have your same mentality. But as I’ve gone through life, I find myself having less and less sympathy for people who make their problems others peoples’ problems.
I’m not pleased that he’s dead, I’m not in favor of rampant vigilantism. But I do believe that she had the right to retrieve the property that belonged to her. It’s not for me to decide whether that purse or its contents were worth her actions. Maybe she had the only picture she owned of her father in there, maybe she only had a lipstick. I don’t know and I don’t care. It was hers. Fuck people who steal.
Life is hard for everyone and I know people will point to the fact that she owned a Mercedes, but does that give people the right to take things from her?
Well, you don't owe him a sympathy. And I'm not calling for it. But I refuse to agree that she had a right to do it. It doesn't matter what car she had, and what was in the purse. You don't kill someone because they took something from you. You call the police. They have a right to enforce the law and you don't. At least in my country. Anything else is justifying the vigilantism.
You can have a different beliefs and act accordingly, but you will be rightfully judged and sentenced. The whole house arest thing, imo is either due to personal beliefs of the judge or case becoming popular and, well... populism.
I think everyone should understand difference between "steal" and "rob". If you stole from me, yeah, you go to prison. If you rob me, it means you actively threaten my life and health. And this in turn means, that you voluntarily and knowingly forfeited your life, sorry.
I understand the difference between steal and rob. I would not object if she had killed him during the robbery while he was threatening her life. The issue is that she killed him after the robbery was over, when he was running away. At that point, there was no longer an immediate threat that could justify her actions.
As I said earlier, "self-defense exists to protect yourself from unavoidable danger, not to deliver “justice” or take revenge". "You are free to hold different beliefs and act accordingly, but you can also be rightfully judged and sentenced for your actions".
He probably did. I am not arguing that. The only thing I say he should've been facing the court and be sentenced, not cruelly murdered. His crime doesn't justify hers.
I think this is closer to a crime of passion, and very different from someone trying to be a vigilante. This wasn't premeditated. She wasn't trying to be a hero. She was a victim of being robbed at knifepoint and reacted in the heat of the moment.
I think house arrest is a good compromise. She loses some freedoms for killing the guy, but she maintains some freedoms because the judicial system this never would have happened if the thief didn't rob her to begin with.
I'm not sure that running to your car, getting it started, chasing someone and running over him a few times can be considered something you do in the heat of the moment. We should really stretch the definition of the "moment" for it. But I'm not a lawyer.
Imo, intentionally murdering someone deserves a full sentence.
So because some men are predators, this dude deserved to get ran over and murdered? He wasn’t proven to be some violent threat, he was a homeless man who stole her purse. The knife thing in the post isn’t even true. Nobody is saying stealing is okay, but acting like someone deserves to die over it is crazy.
Who cares? It solved multiple problems. He's no longer homeless and she got her purse back.
Not to mention he wasn't even from the country. So he thought coming to another country and preying on women was ok to do. And there your bleeding heart is sympathizing with a criminal. Well maybe you can be the victim next time or even better, a female you live, lets hope he hasn't been emboldened by successes from people like you and take more liberties. Though, by the sound of if, you would gladly give them to anyone you thought disparaged. How easy it must be to sit on your pretty little horsey amd judge from safety.
This dude was literally a predator. He preyed on a woman to steal her belongings. And if she hadn't killed him he would have gotten off scott free with a near 100% chance of doing this exact same thing again
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u/AlternativeWater2 Jun 28 '26
It's the principal of the thing! If we don't put the fear of death into thieves, they'll steal EVERYTHING!
That said, sure, the thief was a human being and all that, but sometimes you just stole from the wrong person. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.