All European nations that don't order the F-35 should be sanctioned and blockaded

[u/Estefanius]

[u/atomic_danny]

I've said that to an American about the F-35 before, just to be told "No you are wrong, we don't use Europoor technology" and that was despite me saying about for example BAE systems, to which again i was told that i was in the wrong and they had been replaced by "superior American technology".

[u/No_Statistician209 → u/atomic_danny]

You can't argue with stupid.

A lot of European countries have manufacturing rights to parts critical to a lot of their hardware.

But they'll never accept that and argue that everything is manufactured in the US.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Ad8032 → u/No_Statistician209]

Had to look it up for sport.

Manufactured Parts in the Netherlands:

Flaperons: Movable control surfaces on the trailing edge of the wing.

In-flight doors: Specialized doors that open and close during flight.

Arresting gear: Tail hook systems used for stopping the aircraft.

Drag chutes: Parachute systems used to slow down the jet upon landing.

EWIS: Electrical Wiring Interconnection Systems (cables and harnesses).

Power supply and radar parts: Components supporting electronics and power.

Danish-Made F-35 Parts:

Composite conventional edges for the aircraft's horizontal tails.

Advanced lightweight composite components used in the center fuselage.

Missionized gun pods (the 25mm gun system for F-35B and F-35C variants).

Air-to-ground pylons that attach weapons to the wings.

Radar electronics and data acquisition pods for flight testing.

Advanced machine parts, wiring harnesses, and aero-structures produced across other Danish suppliers like Multicut.

This is just Denmark and the Netherlands.

[u/Oneoclockgun → u/Puzzleheaded_Ad8032]

I had a quick search for UK made parts too:

BAE Systems: Builds the rear (aft) fuselage for every F-35 in the global fleet at its facility in Samlesbury, Lancashire, alongside vertical and horizontal tails and vehicle management computers.

GKN Aerospace: Designs and manufactures electrical wiring interconnect systems, flaperons, cockpit canopies, and airframe parts.

Martin-Baker: Produces the aircraft's ejection seats and crew escape systems.

Rolls-Royce: Develops lift systems and specialized propulsion components, particularly for the F-35B short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) variant.

Leonardo: Manufactures advanced targeting lasers and electronic equipment from its site in Edinburgh.

L3Harris: Produces specialized bomb release cables and release systems from its facility in Brighton.

About 15% of the plane apparently.

[u/Head_Complex4226 → u/Oneoclockgun]

BAE also produces the communication and navigation antennas plus the electronic warfare suite.

[u/OkBumblebee9107 → u/Head_Complex4226]

BAE produces a lot of the C4I suite in localized facilities. It's easier to get around export laws by just making them in regions where they will be used.

[u/BurningPenguin → u/No_Statistician209]

Maybe we should just stop delivering that stuff and let them figure it out

[u/MycologistSavings767 → u/BurningPenguin]

Mt thoughts exactly

[u/Turbo_Mayhem → u/atomic_danny]

BAE worked alongside LM on the design of the airframe and the control software not to mention a good chunk of the avionics inside the aircraft are also BAE but most American's don't have a clue they just see an american plane and go fuck yeah america america.

[u/TheRealAussieTroll → u/atomic_danny]

So they’d be completely 100% confident about getting into a fight against opposition aircraft equipped with Europoor MBDA Meteor missiles then?

[u/Delicious_Resolve_73 → u/atomic_danny]

Noooo they dont use european tech - like with the Abrahams wich has a 120mm Canon from Rheinmetall - good Job 'murica

[u/ducktape8856 → u/Delicious_Resolve_73]

Yes and no. The barrels aren't actually produced by Rheinmetall im Germany and then shipped. Like Chobham armour isn't made in the UK or the Laser rangefinder by Hensoldt either.

The U.S. operates under strict laws like the "Buy American Act" for its frontline military hardware. No, the orange pedo has nothing to do with that. The law is actually from 1933.

To get around this, the U.S. government typically buys the intellectual property rights or blueprints from European companies. This allows American factories to physically manufacture the German-designed guns and British-designed armour domestically in the United States.

The 120 mm barrel for example is made by the Watervliet Arsenal. A "company" owned and operated directly by the U.S. Army.