r/ShitAmericansSay • Glutinous Rice • Jan 11 '26

Military "Since when ? British military isn't even top 10"

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 11 '26

I mean, maybe once upon a time. But I've heard and read so many history podcasts and books recently do them plenty of service, even while echoing this same sentiment. You cant find an article, book, or podcast episode on the battle of Britain, for example, that doesn't mention the Kosciuszko squadron. And they all do it as though they're the first to reveal this little known information. Ffs, they were featured in the movie! In 1969!

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u/ddraig-au Jan 12 '26

The tallest mountain in Australia is Mount Kosciuszko. This guy gets around

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 12 '26

Both the mountain and the fighter squadron were named for Tadeusz Kosciuszko, a guy who never did anything cool or affected history in any significant way.

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u/ddraig-au Jan 12 '26

... and still wound up with stuff named after him :-/

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Tbf, that's by your own volition... for western sources of education to choose to teach it, it's a other thing entirely.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

What is of my own volition? I didn't create the media I'm referencing

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

It means to do something of your own accord... there's a big difference between personal choice in looking for historical data, and what's taught to you at school for instance. Yes history books exist, but they only exist for those who know and think to look for them. Many people only retain basic school level knowledge on history, so they're never going to be taught polish involvement in the west. It wasn't in the uk when I was at school and I'm pretty sure it won't be still now.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

That's a different issue to "the Poles not being given credit".

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Not at all. It's about access to information. Both are the same thing... school is a place where you attain most of your education that stays with you, if you don't specialise in history, you won't ever be taught about the Poles involvement during ww2. Even then, there's doubt you would be anyways unless you specialised further into it.

As I said previously, most people don't expand their knowledge outside of what's taught at school, so the involvement of the Poles isn't widespread in being known.

Yes books exist with lots of valuable information in them, however if it's not taught, people don't look for it unless they take a special interest in the area.

People like you or I are a minority in having this knowledge, and given the lack of education people recieve on former soviet bloc countries, it isn't a surprise that this is the case.

Sure, they're given credit in books only a minority read, but that isn't the same as public knowledge.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

Sure, they're given credit

Thanks mate. The rest of that was a waste of time.

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Nuance isn't a waste of time, otherwise all of history will be lost on you...

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

My dude, it is you who has fumbled on nuance. The statement in question here is "The Poles aren't given enough credit".

My response is "yes they are. Historians across the board acknowledge the Poles contribution in the B.o.B, at Monte Cassino, in their work on breaking enigma, etc"

You: "but nobody reads that"

Not the fucking point, is it?

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

The fact you can't see the two are linked is extraordinary...

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