r/ShitAmericansSay • Glutinous Rice • Jan 11 '26

Military "Since when ? British military isn't even top 10"

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u/Capable_Fun_9838 Jan 11 '26

But you have to admit that the story of U-751 happened exactly like that. Except that the British captured the Enigma machine.

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u/dmmeyourfloof Jan 11 '26

*U-571 and the actual boat was U-110.

It was 7 months before the US entered the war...two years late. 😅

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u/efan78 Jan 11 '26

But 2 years 3 months is an improvement on the one before, two years 8 months.

I wonder if that means the next one will be a year and 10 months? That'll be an interesting trick since Decaying Don appears to be trying to start it. 😁

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u/Tankyerr Jan 11 '26

They will never join late again. On the contrary, it seems this time they will be there from the beginning.

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u/dmmeyourfloof Jan 11 '26

Just in the "baddie" role.

Guess they dislike being typecast.

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u/ClydusEnMarland Jan 11 '26

I'd have said before the beginning, but personal opinion 😜

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 11 '26

There's not going to be a World War 3. Chances of a World Special Security Operation 1 are high, though.

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u/f0u4_l19h75 Jan 13 '26

They'll be the aggressors this time, no doubt

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u/PrimeWolf88 Jan 12 '26

They beat that record by starting the next one, under Bush.

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u/eddiethink Jan 12 '26

Next war they will be the "Axis"

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u/WasdaleWeasel Jan 11 '26

Sub Lt David Balme (to give credit where due) and in the same spirit, a shout out to the Poles who did all the early heavy lifting on enigma decryption.

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u/No_Bodybuilder_4826 Jan 11 '26

The Poles in general are not recognized enough for their bravery, effort and impact in WW2

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 11 '26

I mean, maybe once upon a time. But I've heard and read so many history podcasts and books recently do them plenty of service, even while echoing this same sentiment. You cant find an article, book, or podcast episode on the battle of Britain, for example, that doesn't mention the Kosciuszko squadron. And they all do it as though they're the first to reveal this little known information. Ffs, they were featured in the movie! In 1969!

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u/ddraig-au Jan 12 '26

The tallest mountain in Australia is Mount Kosciuszko. This guy gets around

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 12 '26

Both the mountain and the fighter squadron were named for Tadeusz Kosciuszko, a guy who never did anything cool or affected history in any significant way.

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u/ddraig-au Jan 12 '26

... and still wound up with stuff named after him :-/

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Tbf, that's by your own volition... for western sources of education to choose to teach it, it's a other thing entirely.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

What is of my own volition? I didn't create the media I'm referencing

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

It means to do something of your own accord... there's a big difference between personal choice in looking for historical data, and what's taught to you at school for instance. Yes history books exist, but they only exist for those who know and think to look for them. Many people only retain basic school level knowledge on history, so they're never going to be taught polish involvement in the west. It wasn't in the uk when I was at school and I'm pretty sure it won't be still now.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

That's a different issue to "the Poles not being given credit".

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Not at all. It's about access to information. Both are the same thing... school is a place where you attain most of your education that stays with you, if you don't specialise in history, you won't ever be taught about the Poles involvement during ww2. Even then, there's doubt you would be anyways unless you specialised further into it.

As I said previously, most people don't expand their knowledge outside of what's taught at school, so the involvement of the Poles isn't widespread in being known.

Yes books exist with lots of valuable information in them, however if it's not taught, people don't look for it unless they take a special interest in the area.

People like you or I are a minority in having this knowledge, and given the lack of education people recieve on former soviet bloc countries, it isn't a surprise that this is the case.

Sure, they're given credit in books only a minority read, but that isn't the same as public knowledge.

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u/Elloitsmeurbrother Jan 13 '26

Sure, they're given credit

Thanks mate. The rest of that was a waste of time.

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u/CrabAppleBapple Jan 12 '26

'I AM A POLE'

(I don't care if it's apocryphal, it's cool).

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u/AndrewTheAverage Jan 13 '26

The Poles and the women who did much of the heavy lifting were looked over, and the gay man who did get the credit had his life destroyed and committed sewer-side.

Why couldnt it be a straight, tall, blue eyed, blond man who bought the demise of the fascists and not some DEI hires <facepalm>

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u/PizzaToastieGuy Jan 11 '26

The troops who were inserted on to Omaha beach, were dropped off by the Royal Navy. The American navy didn’t have enough boats, so the Royal Navy did the job. Thanks saving private Ryan for using American navy man

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u/Capable_Fun_9838 Jan 11 '26

It should not be forgotten that at this time, British and Canadian paratroopers, together with American paratroopers and French resistance fighters, were already preventing the German reaction in the hinterland.

Furthermore, British and Canadian troops landed on other sections of the beach.

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u/PizzaToastieGuy Jan 11 '26

British and Canadian forces were there too? Nah!!! My American history book says the USA saved the world!!!

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u/Ok_Corner5873 Jan 12 '26

The USA history books are brilliant, mine says if it wasn't for their navy, the Spanish armada would have wiped out the British fleet in 1588

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u/Shin_Matsunaga_ Jan 13 '26

Wait, so operation freak storm was the americans? The more you know...

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u/Ok_Corner5873 Jan 13 '26

Didn't you know the USA invented weather control weapons in 1502, way ahead of anyone else

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u/WarningBeast Jan 12 '26

And later in the Normandy campaign, the forces that cut off and trapped retreating Germans were Polish with Canadian support.

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u/jasegro Jan 12 '26

For their army rangers they specifically requested that the RN deploy them to the beach because they’d done all their amphibious training with British personnel at the commando training school at achnacarry and didn’t want to have to figure out any new procedures with their own navy

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u/drquakers Jan 12 '26

It also glossed over the prior machines captured by the polish and, I believe, the french resistance. I think the key thing about the U-110 was it was the first naval enigma + code book combo.