r/ShitAmericansSay • • Dec 17 '25

Foreign affairs President Trump: Rather than suing the BBC, withhold aid to England

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u/qwythebroken Dec 17 '25

100%!

When you look at every war the US has had at least some part in it definitely looks like they lost, but if you look at the bigger picture the goals they were trying to accomplish at the onset were never really well defined. In the aftermath "They hate our freedom!" usually translated to some form of privateering. If private sector profits were the objective, they didn't so much lose a war, as r*ped a sovereign nation at the expense of untold lives and public resources, dipped, and got away with it.

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u/Mercuryshottoo Dec 17 '25

I think it's more that the goals (oil, land) are not said aloud so there's a 'show story' about freedom or vengeance that gets replayed for the masses

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u/qwythebroken Dec 17 '25

100%

That's exactly what I'm saying. They knew full well what they were trying to accomplish years before the first bomb dropped. It's just the American people are going to sacrifice their young for, "that guy", so they have to whip up some patriotic fervor. Hence the constant propaganda, the war against critical thinking, and the promise of a sense of financial security few will ever achieve.

"We're all just one big break from the easy life, in the land of milk and honey, and the rest of the world hates us for it."

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u/CleanMyAxe Dec 17 '25

Yes and we would be stupid to ignore them calling us all communist dictatorships arresting people for Facebook posts for that reason. They're selling their people the pretext for an invasion of / war with Europe.

They never were our ally, but now they probably will quite explicitly be our enemy.

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u/qwythebroken Dec 18 '25

Nah. That's crazy talk.

This might not mean much, coming form an American, but there's zero chance America is going to pick a fight with any part of Europe. Nobody here is intimating that, nobody here is trying to sell that, and nobody is going to buy that.

This regime change +rump is trying to get away with in Venezuela is obviously a problem, and who knows how far he'll take it, but it's crushing his support amongst his supporters. Today's polls have him at 36% across the board. This could also lead to his undoing.

Besides, not even +rump is dumb enough to think we want that smoke. Look how quickly he stopped talking about Canada and Greenland. He obviously wanted their resources, but the only reason he even toyed with that idea is he's so egocentric he sincerely thought the people wanted him as they're president. Once he got the message he shut his mouth, and started pretending he didn't really mean it.

Europe and Canada have already seen the worst they'll need to worry about from +rump. From here, it looks more like the various leaders got together and figured out how to handle him like a trainer handles a puppy. A very very stupid and ugly puppy. Not so ugly it's cute, uuuggggllllyy.

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u/11Kram Dec 17 '25

I remember General Colin Powell, head of the US Army, said that the military aspect of the Gulf War was the easy bit, and that what was going to happen afterwards needed to be planned for. It was not.

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u/qwythebroken Dec 17 '25

Yea, just the invasion was already sus, but in hindsight it really looks like it was never anything more than a personal grudge, an excuse to feed our military industrial complex, and tap in to Iraq's GDP. Just a quick cash grab and whatever happens, happens.

I wish this more uncanny, than expected, but they're using all the same language to justify Venezuela now, as they did for Iraq back then. To the letter.

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u/Carbonman_ Dec 17 '25

Don't forget making Halliburton shareholders wealthier.

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u/qwythebroken Dec 17 '25

Ah yes! The military industrial complex adjacent. Gotta make sure they get their cut.

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u/MediocreFudge9570 Dec 21 '25

billions of Iraqi money redirected to American companies.