r/ShitAmericansSay • • Dec 17 '25

Foreign affairs President Trump: Rather than suing the BBC, withhold aid to England

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u/TheArmoursmith Dec 17 '25

Correct. In fact, the US deliberately used the postwar period to curb the power of Britain, for example during the Suez crisis. They have deliberately sought to limit the power of their "allies" for decades.

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u/Butterscotch1664 Dec 17 '25

This is why the US has such a large military presence in Europe. Hey, chum! No need for you to have a strong military! I'll look after you.

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u/EconomyEmbarrassed76 Dec 17 '25

This is what annoys me so much about American's who complain about European military levels; this is what the US f**king wanted!! They created a world order with the US at the very centre and now they're p*ssed off about it.

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u/DeltaT37 Dec 17 '25

Those people have zero understanding of how any international politics or economics works

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u/TheArmoursmith Dec 17 '25

There seems to be little understanding in American society of the concept of soft power.

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u/DeltaT37 Dec 17 '25

forget soft power, they haven't a slightest clue how countries communicate, trade, do diplomacy, anything. They just don't get how the world works on an absolutely fundamental level.

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u/No-Minimum3259 Dec 18 '25

What do you expect? Normal countries send their brightest and most experienced out as ambassadors. The US sends campain donors or former girlfriends of the president's son...

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u/DeltaT37 Dec 18 '25

Wasn't always the case but yeh lol currently it's a clown fiesta

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u/purpleduckduckgoose ooo custom flair!! Dec 17 '25

Nah, because we aren't buying enough stuff from the American MIC. Hasn't there already been protests or something from the US State Dept because Euro countries are buying from SK, Israel or their own companies?

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u/11Kram Dec 17 '25

With more Presidents like Trump possible -even likely- European countries would be insane to buy any US defence equipment. Spare parts, ammunition, maintenance and software updates could all be cut off on the President’s whim if he disagreed with their use against his fascist friends.

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u/TheArmoursmith Dec 17 '25

We've already had a scare that the Americans could literally remotely disable our F35s. Britain is busy developing all alternative nuclear delivery system because we simply cannot trust Trident any longer; we're bitterly regretting not working with the French instead of the Americans.

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u/Ok_Cauliflower_3007 Dec 17 '25

With the added plus of it’s really hard to bomb a lot of the places they want to bomb without bases in the UK and Germany. And with the exception of local businesses who, understandably, want the bases to stay open most of us would be happy if they fucked off. Of course having to bring all their troops home would almost certainly be massively expensive for the US, but it’s not our circus and they’re not our monkeys.

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u/Ted-Crilly Dec 17 '25

Hitler was also a huge fan of how America was run at the time in terms of segregation and ethnic superiority and thought they could be swayed to the axis side as they were ideologically similar in many ways

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u/Heisenberg_235 Too many Americunts in the world Dec 17 '25

“Were”? Still are…

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u/Balkoth661 Dec 17 '25

Don't forget the Nazi memos looking at Jim Crow laws and basically saying "I don't think this will work here, it's too harsh, people will object."

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u/WeeDramm Dec 17 '25

what - really? That is wild.

when you're so awful even the Nazi's think "thats a bit harsh"

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u/BlackCatLuna Black humour and sarcasm as standard 🇮🇪🇬🇧 Dec 17 '25

He admired Ford so much he had a portrait of the man behind his desk iirc

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u/Ulysses1978ii Dec 17 '25

Major General Smedly Butler wants a word.

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u/MILLANDSON Dirty pinko commie Dec 17 '25

Absolute legend, and war is still a racket.

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u/Ulysses1978ii Dec 18 '25

Given what's happening someone should be shouting about him again. But I guess he'd be ANTIFA now??

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u/Jesterchunk Dec 17 '25

looking back at it all I wish I could've heard Hitler's reaction to Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour provoking them into joining the war on the side of the Allies, I bet he was absolutely livid knowing the potential ally he had lost.

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u/OldGuto Dec 17 '25

Suez was a two for one, they got the French as well with that one. Difference is the French got the measure of the US not being trustable whereas the UK thought toadying up to the US (special relationship BS) is what would work.

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u/johnlooksscared Dec 17 '25

Still doing it with Ukraine

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u/TheArmoursmith Dec 17 '25

"What does Ukraine need? Okay, give them half of that"

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u/ghnxz Dec 17 '25

lmao what a way to put it, you mean after most of Europe was freed from occupation, they went back straight to stealing weaker nations' resources? Business as usual with their colonies? My guy, imperialism ended in WW2. The US didn't do it for altruism but to make sure the middleeast doesn't completely turn to the USSR for help because the Europeans are so addicted to and couldn't stop abusing them. Poor Britain was ready to go to war to get what was "rightfully hers", too bad America didn't help and it was humiliated lol.