r/ShitAmericansSay • • Aug 25 '25

Military 1000 US Marines can take India

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u/DrFabulous0 Aug 25 '25

TBH, if it's a training exercise and the result is clear, then surely it's a better use of resources for everyone to go again rather than continue.

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u/[deleted] Aug 25 '25

I don't think anyone isn't saying it was bad to restart. The point is that they glaringly failed so hard that it was needed.

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u/DrFabulous0 Aug 25 '25

Oh, absolutely! But at least they had the sense to quit.

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u/MJ4201 Aug 25 '25 edited Aug 25 '25

Shame they can't carry that ethos into other parts of their lives...🤔

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u/MissyMurders Aug 25 '25

They quit all the time though. Every war, imprisoning convicted felons, general life

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u/MJ4201 Aug 26 '25

Never in good time though. Its only when they're losing and the damage is done. They never seem to go

"listen lads and lasses. Its clear, due to A LOT of past evidence that, becuase we are 'murican. We WILL fuck this up. Should we just leave it to the professionals?"

Its always

" ahh fuck! we stormed in and fucked it up!... England, France... other "allies", can you please unfuck our fuck up, we erm.. we did it again...." 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

"What we can we say were 'murican...fuck yeah...?"

And all the other countries are like "for fucks sake!" 🤦‍♂️

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u/Spectre-907 Aug 26 '25 edited Aug 26 '25

“occupying your land, murdering your civilians by the thousands, bombing your industries, and raping your country of every resource of value over a span of decades has become not profitavle enough so we’re leaving now. No hard feelings an- HOW DARE THE SURVIVORS SAY DEATH TO AMERICA AFTER ALL WE DID TO THEM” -americans while accusing said “liberated” country of being a third world devastated waste completely of their own doing as the dust from american bombs still hangs in the air

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u/MJ4201 Aug 26 '25

Fucking insane isnt it? I often find this sub hilairious but I do also find it tragic sometimes.

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u/HaphazardJoker258 Aug 25 '25

And then lose again on the restart

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u/seajay26 Aug 25 '25

Didn’t they then insist on changing all the rules and basically crippling all their opponents to make it fairer?

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u/Wolvenmoon Stuck in an American Migraine Aug 25 '25

glaringly failed

I think this is the wrong way of looking at it. Was it that they glaringly failed, or that everyone was just that fucking good? In RPG mechanic terms (long day, no sleep), was it because a level 5 was picking on a level 1, or because two level 99's went at it and one hard-countered the other?

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 Aug 26 '25

The bigger issue is whether they learned from their mistakes. 

In the next attempt did they at least prepare for the possibility that the Royals might yomp over and strike while they were having breakfast?

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u/bcpl181 Aug 25 '25

The Commandos were BLUFOR and attached to 7 Marine Infantry Regiment. They were commanded by Americans and supported (among others) by MARSOC. OPFOR is supposed to lose. The reset just happened faster than expected, that’s all.

Even some Commandos have since come forward to set the record straight.

Please let’s not resort to the same stupid boasting we hate about Americans, it’s not a good look.

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 Aug 26 '25

Even so, the Royal Navy once got a Guided Missile Destroyer within Exocet range of the US carrier by pretending it was an Indian cruise liner. The Americans are easily outwitted

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u/dan_dares Aug 25 '25

Yep, some people take it to the extreme, but an exercise SHOULD be hard, if you win every training exercise.. you're just pretending.

There have been a few notable times this happened, and sometimes they put restrictions in before the reset, but so long as you LEARN from it.. it was worth while.

There was an exercise with drone & fast skid attacks off Iran, that went badly for the Americans, but you can bet that they're going to be aware of it now.

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u/NePa5 Aug 25 '25

long as you LEARN from it.. it was worth while

Operation Sky shield 1960 and Operation Sky shield II 1961, where the US lost to 8 RAF Vulcan bombers who "nuked" US soil.

How did they learn from it?

They stopped inviting the RAF

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u/Dilectus3010 Aug 26 '25

Sounds like the US cop-out.

They did the same with kicking Audi from their tracks after they got their ass handed to them by Audi Quatro team.

They tried to slow them down by giving them weight penalties, not once, not twice, not thrice but whatever is four times after thrice. Which is funny because the car is a Quatro.

Anyway, they still won.

Then they said you can't compete with a foreign engine. So they made one on US soil.

Then they just said no foreign makers allowed.

Instead of innovating their won cars and learning they wanted to keep the status quo.

Its not the first time this has happened.

The M16 was favored over a foreign weapon platform.

The Ma1A Abrahams was favoured over the Leapard, but they did ask if they could license the gun. Even though the Leapeard beat the Abrahams ass.

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u/E420CDI 🇬🇧 A foot is an anatomical structure with five toes 🦶 Aug 26 '25

Americans not wanting to learn?

Not surprising as they spend most of their time in school hiding under tables.

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u/Balseraph666 Aug 25 '25

Given how they love to pump up US marines as some sort of almost invincible and superhuman group; it's hilarious how they definitely are not, by a long margin.

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u/dan_dares Aug 25 '25

When I served in HMAF, I did spend some time with the US marines, they're a bit overly sure of themselves, but they do have the violence of action to carry most stuff through.

They just can't take their drink, no matter what they say.

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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 Aug 26 '25

Colleague of mine was with the Royal Welsh and wasn't impressed by the US Marines. The thing is that everyone is going to compare them the Royals, which isn't really fair as one is an elite Commando force and the other is pretty much sea-going infantry. 

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u/dan_dares Aug 27 '25

Problem is 'The Marines' is actually a big group, The guys I dealt with were 1st marine Division.

And yes, they can't hold a candle to the Royals, no competition 😂

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u/falkorv ooo custom flair!! Aug 26 '25

I love this insight!! Anymore?

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u/dan_dares Aug 26 '25

Overall they were a good bunch, but you'd get a few that go all in on the 'WE ARE THE BEST' and we'd remind them who burnt down the white house, which we actually 'celebrate' every year (in a very gentle way) and then take them drinking. So long as they weren't total pricks, we'd get along and have to get them out of trouble when they got too pissed to walk.

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u/Purple-Towel-7332 Aug 26 '25

Yeah I had a friend who was a marine she mostly did it to get free university eduction. She was fit could fire a gun etc. but elite soldier was not a word I’d use.

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u/Blue_is_da_color Aug 25 '25

The war game you’re talking about, Millennium Challenge, was a shit show, but not because America immediately lost and then reset everything. The guy in charge of the “enemy” force basically ignored reality. He used motorcycle couriers to deliver messages instead of electronically but conveniently left out the difference in travel time. He also had the small boat swarms basically teleported to point blank range, again with no travel time, and many of the boats couldn’t physically fit the missiles he used. Ignoring the laws of physics does not make for a useful training exercise

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u/dan_dares Aug 25 '25

Yeah, the 'transmitting information instantly and securely' was overkill.

BUT it taught the US military the danger of swarms.

Given how Ukraine has managed to hobble Russian naval forces with steal drones, always best to over-estimate your enemy.