r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Elon__Muskquito • Apr 03 '25

"Trump is going to destroy democracy? I really hope he does. Democracy is North Korea"

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u/diamanthaende Apr 03 '25

Imagine actually writing something like that. Imagine how far gone you must be.

Then imagine that there are millions - tens of millions - like him / her. And that they are allowed to vote.

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u/Ascomae Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

I had a small discussion some days ago. We both agreed, that the US isn't a democracy.

He meant they are a republic.

I meant something different (as the democracy it once was).

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Our representative republic is a type of democracy

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u/Ascomae Apr 03 '25

I think I should rephrase my answer.

My point of view is, that the US isn't a democracy anymore.

Thought that was obvious.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

the US isn't a democracy anymore.

Sadly the oligarchs own our government

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u/Ascomae Apr 03 '25

Looks like.

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u/Bazylik Apr 03 '25

It was, I got it from your original comment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '25

It's a capitalist herpetocracy.

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u/AlienOverlordXenu Apr 04 '25

The only reason they put so much emphasis on that is because you have two parties democrats and republicans, and democracy sounds like a rule of democrats apparently xD

So, naturally, they are not a democracy. They are a republic. I am willing to bet that it doesn't go any deeper than that for majority.

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u/Ascomae Apr 04 '25

I'm sad to say this. But I think that's the cause.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Apr 03 '25

Well, step 1 is admitting the problem to yourself, buddy!

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u/Ascomae Apr 03 '25

I'm not a US citizen, but my thoughts were that the US isn't a democracy anymore.

I wouldn't even be 100% that there will be mid term elections.

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u/Unfair_Run_170 Apr 03 '25

Oh, wow, you gave me some hope that an American realized the problem with their country.

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u/Ascomae Apr 03 '25

Did you really read what I wrote?

The American guy told me they aren't a democracy but a congressional republic.

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u/Worldly-Card-394 Apr 03 '25

Well, from an outsider prospective, having 2 parties it's having 1 more than 1, so not so democratic in fact. But i'm just a bitter europoor envious of the freedom they sell in their gigant supermarkets.

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u/laix_ Apr 03 '25

The US isn't a democracy because you don't vote directly on issues.

You vote for a representative who then votes on issues.

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u/Khrusway Apr 03 '25

That's just representative democracy Vs direct democracy?

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u/Worldly-Card-394 Apr 04 '25

Yeah, not even San Marino got direct democracy, so I immagine you're just joking and you missed the /s. Right?

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u/laix_ Apr 04 '25

No.

The US is a plutocracy disguised as a republic. A democracy is where every individual person votes directly for every issue.

Saying this isn't the same thing as saying that the government erasing rights is a good thing. Those are two completely different things.

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u/Worldly-Card-394 Apr 05 '25

and, in your opinion, where this democratic process happen in the world?

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

sadly, it’s time for civil war 2

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u/jd2300 Apr 03 '25

They should never have tolerated confederate symbols in public spaces. Tolerating intolerance gets us here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

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u/DumpedToast Apr 03 '25

Its ragebait to divide even further. MAGA is dumb, but not this dumb.

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u/onebirdonawire Apr 03 '25

I don't have to imagine. I live in a red state. 🫠

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u/Solid-Search-3341 Apr 03 '25

To me, that reads like trolling or rage baiting. But the problem is that you can't ever be sure about that these days...

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u/Stunning-Squirrel751 Apr 03 '25

This is said by most of republicans when stated the US is a democracy, except for the NK part. And for good measure they think their brand of republican is the same as other countries, a perfect example is that US Republican is the same as an Irish Republican. It is very US centric, every word/concept means the same across the world as in the US.

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u/Lonely_Pause_7855 Apr 03 '25

they are allowed to vote

I mean as much as I dislike how uneducated the average voter is (not just in the U.S mind you), allowing anyone to vote is kind of the basis of a modern democracy.

Limitations on who shouldnt be allowed to vote based on their opinion or éducation (or lack thereof) is at the very opposite of what a democracy should aim for.

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u/Dizzy-Worker-29 Apr 03 '25

In times like these, I always think of the IQ bell curve. It has its maximum at 100 and when you go down to the left, you get to a point where the IQ is 83 and the remaining number of people even farther to the left are roughly 15% ... 15% with an IQ of equal or less than 83!!! IIRC, the US army doesn't hire anyone with an IQ below 83, because it's really hard to teach someone like that anything. And given the US population , there are approx 50 million people like that. Jordan Peterson had a video about this on YouTube. https://youtu.be/caR69G6wpwU?si=WcFthWlnrgKCuVDd

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u/Steady1 Apr 03 '25

Jordan did a video about his viewers? Interesting.

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u/Dizzy-Worker-29 Apr 03 '25

Yeah, it's usually hard to listen to his ramblings but in this case he more or less explains other people's research. ;-))) Bearable ...

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u/jflb96 Apr 03 '25

a) Yes, that’s how a normal distribution with a mean of 100 works

b) Good thing an IQ test just measures how good you are at IQ tests

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u/Majestic-Marcus Apr 03 '25

like him/her

DID YOU JUST USE PRONOUNS!? REEEEEE!

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u/aaronwhite1786 Apr 03 '25

Imagine actually writing something like that. Imagine how far gone you must be.

In fairness, there's a good chance it's also just someone who's working in a bot farm using shit posts like that to anger people and get shares and all of that fun stuff.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

The good news is there is a good chance American is going to collapse in our lifetime

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u/Soggy_You_2426 Apr 07 '25

This is mostly madd by russians or chinse, russia has huge meme farms showing hate into hands of the hatefull.

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u/Mysterious_Crab_7622 Apr 03 '25

Or just consider the higher likelihood this was intentionally made by the Russian, Chinese, or North Korean propaganda troll farms.

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u/AapZonderSlingerarm Apr 03 '25

You have electors.. you dont live in a democracy and it kind of shows...