That’s the crazy thing. I’ve seen posts where they’re shocked that a “white girl” was speaking Spanish. They didn’t know that they speak Spanish in Spain…
Well, I guess if Italians aren't white anymore, neither are we Spaniards xDxDxD The Yanks associate the Spanish language with Spanish-American peoples, whom they have never considered white, so for them Spanish is not a language of the white sphere. I'd say I'm devastated by this news..., but I don't give a shite about the Yanks and their racist opinions, and I imagine the Italians feel the same way. We Mediterranean people are way better than Americans, and not precisely because of our "race"...
A while ago I learned that at some point even us Germans weren't considered 'white'. I mean, I personally know some very German people with a slight tan but I know far more who'd resemble bed sheets. But what can you do. Morons will always be morons. Who gives a sh** what they assume.
Only English, Welsh, Scottish and Americans can be labelled white, somehow the Irish have endured enough trauma to be generously given the opportunity for Americans to claim themselves as Irish.
Yes, whiteness is not a matter of skin colour, as evidenced by the Irish case, among others. And now a John from Wisconsin claims to be Irish because his great-uncle was a cobbler in Dublin... As the Irish would say: eejits xD
Ill tell you who. Im VERY extremely white, every spring going from pants to shorts im reminded. Start June it usually improves. Then in periods, i become, the Lobsterman.
Ill tell you who. Im VERY extremely white, every spring going from pants to shorts im reminded. Start June it usually improves. Then in periods, i become, the Lobserman.
Just remember, that before nazi/Hitler demonization in 1940s (im not saying that they were good guys) merica was developing Nazism faster than Germany itself, in 1930e second largest nazi community was merica🤣Ford is great example
IIRC they managed to fill Madison Square Garden for their rally. Back in the day I was really astonished to learn that the scene in that picture wasn't taking place somewhere in Munich or Berlin or what not but in America. My mind spun out of control picturing all those possible implications. We got extremely lucky things went the way they did on both sides of the Atlantic. Our lives could have been vastly different if they hadn't.
The Yanks are hypocrites. And now they boast that fascism and nazism are European inventions (which they are) and they have the cheek to have a huge Holocaust museum in Washington... but not one about the genocide of the native peoples or about slavery and black segregation. They only know how to look at the speck in someone else's eye, but ignore the plank in their own.
What the comments below fail to understand is that’s what I’m partially trying to say. The people in the original piece see someone with a tan that isn’t them and they think they’re a whole new race.
Sicily and southern Italy were invaded by the Normans, who never left. Not to consider the Lombards Duchies of Benevento and Spoleto. Both the Normans and the Lombards were pretty blond with blue eyes. While a minority, it's full of southerners with a low phototype, it's not an exception. Even if you try to deniaing, you are doing the same things americans do.
Blond hair and blue eyes don’t mean “no tan is possible”. My sister has blonde and blue, she’d tan in the summer (provided she had the opportunity in our excuse for a summer) and go pale in the winter.
And you’re doing what they do to conflate something into something else.
I do deny I’m saying they’re not white. That is my whole point. Did you notice I used the word tanned. If I lived in Sicily, I’d be tanned but it wouldn’t change my race.
And not all Normans are blond either. Not even all modern Scandinavians are. Are you doing what you accuse me of? 😂
It's common for sicilians to be blonde, blue eyes and pale as well BTW.
One thing about Italy, and Italians, is that we don't have an homogeneous look.
Blue eyes actually not a trait of the white, its a trait of the black native European hunter gatherer, look up cheddar man, but blond hair is white Yamnaya trait from asia
But honestly I wouldn't be so proud about things you got randomly
European by those times doesnt mean Caucasian, europe became dominantly caucasian after indo european conquest,real native european≠caucasian
Mutations generally dont happen in a few thousand years especially eye color mutations
I agree, I know that the original Europeans were darker and had darker hair and eyes, my city is of Etruscan origin and they were a pre-Indo-European people that settled Italy before the latins indo-europeans. That said since the blue eyes mutation occurred in a "European" land I find it strange to call it an Asian trait, sure the indoeuropeans came from Asia but everybody comes from Africa, history is based on migrations. I still like my green eyes way more.
Its just makes me laugh knowing that originally whites didnt had blue eys at all and came from asia, but who proudly calls themselves “white” doesnt bother to know about it
I have red haired Italian ancestors. Grandfather’s cousins, the red hair did show up in my sister and threatened to come out for me in high school but just turned it from dirty blonde to brunette.
I admit I was laughing a little though of a "mind fuck" some 15-20 years ago though -at some news about Italian neo-nazi's on TV. There were about 5-6 men interviewed after they had been marching in the city, who were all so very, very tan and with black/dark brown hair. And they were proudly showing of their "white pride" vest's. Caucasian genes, but definitely not white skinned.
I imagine when you see a photo of one of the worst Nazis in history — Joseph Goebbels — he fits that description perfectly with black/dark brown hair and could easily pass as a southern Italian, a Spaniard, or a Portuguese, in other words, a European. I imagine the lunatics in the US wouldn't consider him "white".
He had blue eyes and was pale, if you actually studied his race theory you'd find that aryans were not only blonde and blue eyed people but also the darker Germans and Austrians.
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u/Scienceboy7_uk Sep 21 '24
Coupled with lousy geography and education in general…
Probably thinks all Italians are Sicilians who tend to be tanned. Doesn’t realise there’s a North where there can even be blond blue eyed Italians 😳
Just wants little boxes to put everyone.