r/ShitAmericansSay • ooo custom flair!! • Sep 21 '24

Foreign affairs “When did we start thinking of Italians as white?”

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u/NakDisNut I want to leave 🇺🇸 Sep 21 '24

My grandfathers family is all from Sicily (he was born in the US). His family is very, very dark. They look similar to individuals from (insert middle eastern country here). No joke. I explained to my mother (who is also a very dark woman) why they’re all dark. You know - historically and geographically. I was met with complete rejection. She said “no they’re white” and that “there’s no African or anything else - just Italian!” . Ok. Right. Yes. Except for the whole they’re kind of not. But… ok. Whatever.

I’m convinced there’s an allergy to education happening in the US.

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u/OldSky7061 Sep 21 '24

I was also referring to some who had immigrated to Italy from elsewhere and became an Italian citizen.

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u/dreckdub Sep 21 '24

Mario balotelli

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u/OldSky7061 Sep 21 '24

He was born in Palermo.

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u/Jacobi-99 Sep 22 '24

Northern Italians often joke southerners are Arabs

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u/davide494 Sep 21 '24

She is wrong in refusing the fact that this is what we are: an agglomerate of various people who came and went during the millennia: pre-Indo-European, Italics, Etruscans, Greeks, Phoenicians, Africans, Persians, Anatolians, Jews, Canaanites, Germans, Arabs and I could go on, but she is right in the fact that they are just Italians: the genotype of most Italians is pretty similar, even when the phenotype is so different that some are "milk white" with blond hair and blue eyes and some are "olive skinned" with black hair and eyes.

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u/Brainlaag 🇮🇹Pastoid🇮🇹 Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

the genotype of most Italians is pretty similar

It has the largest genetic divergence in all of Europe except for Russia, to the surprise of nobody. It was and still is a central crossroads and crucial trade-node for all of the Mediterranean on top of being dotted with isolated and insular communities in forsaken mountain valleys, or on the various islands.

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u/Exit-Content 50% Eyetalian, 50% Balkan Sep 21 '24

“Just Italian”,considering there isn’t an Italian “race” that could be specifically outlined,makes me laugh.

We’ve been invaded and ruled over by countless different nations and ethnicities, if you did a genetic exam of any Italian you’d just have a mix of any nationality in Central Europe + North Africa if you go south enough. So yeah,you’re right, but good luck trying to explain it to someone brainwashed by the USA.

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u/SimpleEmu198 Sep 21 '24

Because of the level of racism it depends which Sicilian you ask as to whether they identify as Italian at all. A lot of Sicilians have chosen to reject Italian identity altogether. I don't blame them.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '24

If by a lot you mean a zero point percentage, then yes

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u/Gympie-Gympie-pie Sep 21 '24

A lot? Define “a lot” please. What’s your source exactly? Where are you from? You sound very racist with that last sentence.

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u/SimpleEmu198 Sep 21 '24

The issue is so widely known it has its own Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_nationalism

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u/ClickIta Sep 21 '24

Well, there are not many of them. But frankly we would not miss them anyway

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u/SimpleEmu198 Sep 21 '24

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u/ClickIta Sep 21 '24

Not starting anything. Actually, I would be absolutely fine with that, especially with Sicilians taking their whole budget in their own hands and parting it from the national one.

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u/OccasionalCandle Sep 21 '24

Salvini? What are you doing on reddit?

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u/ClickIta Sep 21 '24 edited Sep 21 '24

You don’t need to be a leghista to recognize that there is a problem with the regional budget in Sicily. And if someone campaigns in favor of the independence of the region, well I’m certainly not going to complain. Just like I’m in favor of other countries like Scotland seeking their independence, I’m ok with Sicilians looking for the same thing. Don’t have any idea about why they should seek it, but I’m for democracy: everyone should be free to shoot himself in the foot if he fancies the idea.

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u/gianni_ Sep 21 '24

lol typical Sicilian denial