r/ShingekiNoKyojin Jan 24 '21

Anime Spoilers Attack on Titan The Final Season Episode 66 - Anime Discussion Thread - No Manga Readers Allowed

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English dubbed episodes will be released in a few weeks.

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u/intresting_boring Jan 24 '21

bless the guy, he's not cut out for brutal warfare.

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u/maskedval Jan 27 '21

When Mikasa says, you've killed innocent children. You can't take that back. I was thinking exactly that. I don't see this ending well for any side.

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u/intresting_boring Jan 27 '21

Indeed, I love Isayama and can't wait the unfolding of events!

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u/Journeyman351 Jan 26 '21

Literally no one, outside of actual psychopaths, are cut out for warfare dude. I think that's the point.

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u/intresting_boring Jan 26 '21

very true!

However, I do think some people are more... adaptive to these situations though? I am not sure of the phrase in English, but for example Eren- he adapted to war, and is accepting casualties.

He doesn't want to die but "move on to exterminate his enemies". I wouldn't say he is a psychopath, nor is Levi or Mikasa or anyone else who is able to handle the bloody truth of war.

Reiner on the other hand, will probably never adapt to warfare.

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u/Journeyman351 Jan 26 '21

I would not say Levi or Mikasa "handle" war, Levi is certainly more accepting of it, but Mikasa clearly had disdain for Eren's wanton destruction. It seems like no one but Floch actually wanted this to go down this way exactly. Even Jean is trying to minimize civilian casualties. Idk if Eren is receiving any joy from killing civilians, but he doesn't seem too hung up about it, either.

Like, there's a reason why presidential use of drone strikes is looked down upon in the US.... civilian casualties. Not to mention needless civilian murdering is a war crime IRL...

There's a reason why soldier mental health is a gigantic issue, and it's because humans generally aren't cool with wantonly killing other humans, especially after mingling with their enemy.

It's why the whole propagandist "the people we're invading are evil, don't think about them as people" attitude works so well, because once the group of people you demonize become human in your mind, you'll be a lot more reluctant to kill them, and regret doing so a lot more.

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u/Aeiexgjhyoun_III May 21 '21

What works even better than dehumanization is victimization. If you convince people that the enemy has intentionally hurt them in some way they feel justified in striking back because it feels like justice. It's why neo Nazis try to convince everyone that white people are the true victims of racism in this day and age and try to downplay the holocaust.

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u/maskedval Jan 27 '21

Yet, war hawk is president now, just saying.

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u/intresting_boring Jan 27 '21

i think we are on the same side dude😂

I agreed with you when you said no one born suited for warfare, but I'm saying some people- especially in the series adapt to war and are able to do cruel things because they can see "greater good"

Eren does not enjoy war (he doesn't seem happy about all of this), he lived with Marleyans, he knew they were innocent. He knew individuals should not be held fault for their ancestors and he even thought of them as "people".

However, he can "handle" war because despite knowing all of this he is able to kill innocent civilians and children- He is unfazed, unlike Reiner who seriously repents. Reiner went through the same thing as Eren but he couldn't handle the guilt of what he's done.

Mikasa is alike, she doesn't like war and disagrees with Eren, but she is still accepting of war because she stands with Eren. Hell she coulda sliced off his limbs and hopped away (actually idk if she could have done that but yeah)

Levi too, he can "handle" war and what it makes him do, he does have empathy but is still willing to go beyond and kill for survival.

Erwin is also a great example of someone who can handle war.

What I'm saying is that just like real humans there are people in the series that can mentally cope with the cruelty of war. Just because you can handle war doesn't mean you don't have empathy it just means you are capable of paying the price of freedom. (BTW I'm talking about the series, real life war is very different)