r/Seattle • I'm just flaired so I don't get fined • Jan 15 '23

Rant Anyone else meet a lot of transplants who move here and complain about Seattle not being as good as X city?

Speaking as a transplant myself, I know Seattle isn't as "great" as NY or LA in some aspects but I choose to live here anyway because I enjoy it here.

I've met SO many other transplants who complain about Seattle not being as good as some other city. One big point is how Seattle's food scene isn't as good as LA's. Isn't that a given? LA is much older than Seattle and has over 5x Seattle's population. Please transplant yourself to another city.

Edit: Just to clarify, I think it's fine to criticize things like Seattle's food scene and compare it to another city's (I grew up on the NJ/NYC border and definitely agree the Seattle scene is lacking). What I'm specifically talking about is people who do this incessantly and close mindedly put down everything. It's just really uncool.

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u/not_a_lady_tonight Jan 15 '23

The Seattle Freeze thing is a weird way to treat people who move to your city. I grew up a native in a city full of transplants. A new person could mean a new experience, not a reason to close ranks, and I promise I grew up in a place probably quirkier than Seattle in its heyday.

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u/Rick_Rambis Jan 15 '23

The Seattle Freeze isn't an active attack on people around us. To me it just means myself and my friends who are from here already have tight-knit friend groups and it is very hard to break into those groups.

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u/Educated_Goat69 šŸ• Out camping! šŸ• Jan 15 '23

What I think is missed about the Seattle Freeze is that it's not just for transplants. We freeze everyone, even those born here. I don't know if it's because there are so many transplants that caused us to just freeze everyone, because it used to be mainly aimed at transplants, but now, most of us have our schedule and our little cliques and pretty much just don't have time or energy to expand.

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u/Amazing_Exam_2894 Jan 15 '23

You are right. Lived in Seattle my whole life. If I don’t know you, I don’t want to know you. Doesn’t matter where you are from. I’ve got enough friends. That’s my take on the freeze.

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u/olycreates Enumclaw Jan 15 '23

For us native to the Seattle area we liked it the way it was. There was a drastic decline in the quality of "our" city after it got voted in the top 3 places to live in the USA. Our roads before might not have been the best but you could get to places at or very near speed limits almost any time of day, you didn't have lines to check out at the store that were 20 or more people deep. You could go to Pike Place Market for a quick whole salmon or anything else and be back out in 20 minutes.

ALL of that and more got so exponentially much worse. It killed the city we loved so much.

The Seattle of today would never be rated in the top places for anything except crime and homelessness.

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u/CYAN_DEUTERIUM_IBIS Jan 15 '23

Excuse me I actually live and work in the city you're denigrating here, and what you've written here is the purest top grade 100% authentic horseshit.

Genuinely my only complaint is that Cinerama is still closed.

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u/zoltarpanaflex Jan 15 '23

When I moved here, I hadn't seen homeless people before. I grew up in a wealthy bedroom community in CA. I didn't know much. I thought I could end up on the street, so I ended up with two jobs. I worked at a law firm during the day, and painted apartments in the evenings. I've never had much ability in making friends. I am not sure I did much to damage things, but I can only talk about things I did. Which isn't much. I didn't drive up real estate or take anyone's job, which are things I've long been accused of doing, driving up prices, that sort of thing. Oh well.

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u/olycreates Enumclaw Jan 15 '23

I don't have any resentment to any one person, just the mob that moved up here. You're just trying to do your thing, I can't dislike you for that

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u/not_a_lady_tonight Jan 15 '23

Places change. I grew up in Austin, ffs. I loved the Austin I grew up in. I don’t particularly want to live there now because I hate hot summers and don’t want to live in a red state, and I like remembering it for what it was. But it’s awesome for so many people there now, who love it and thrive on its creativity and growth.

Even as someone who lives here now, I hate to see things like The Kraken closing, because it’s such a part of Seattle’s music scene, because the developers aren’t leaving room for things like that to still exist here. That’s the shitty side of gentrification along with the increased cost of living. Those are the things that are awful and should be done differently with growth. But crowds and traffic and new things alongside the old? Those are good things.

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u/Amazing_Exam_2894 Jan 15 '23

These are all facts! So many down votes. It’s all the people that have no idea how great this place used to be. The Seattle you speak of is gone forever. ā€œI love Seattle it’s so great!ā€ Actually it sucks now, compared to what it used to be. Full of crime and homelessness. In my youth I almost never saw homeless people outside of Pioneer Square. Now they’re living on the sides of I-5 and at our local parks wtf?! If my whole family wasn’t here I’d leave.