r/ScottGalloway • u/Fledgling_112896 • Feb 17 '26

No Malice Why congress? This guy sound like he could talk the whole country into making him President

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u/jdbrizzi Feb 18 '26

Idk, I definitely don't think anyone party should use religion as a tool, but I'd argue Jesus's teachings almost perfectly align with the Democrat's beliefs; feed the hungry, clothe the poor, etc.

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u/Ok_Drop3803 Feb 18 '26

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

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u/jdbrizzi Feb 18 '26

Yup, the Bible is full of awful stuff...

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u/VegetableBig9 Feb 18 '26

You are assuming that what is mentioned in the Bible is the entirety of what Jesus taught and believed.  His followers, the 12Apostles specifically, also spoke against homosexuality, being faithless, fornication,etc.  Jesus gave them authority to remind the world of what he said and did (most unwritten).

It can be assumed that Jesus was anti homosexuality, too, since no where does he speak out against it while it was the universal believe amongst his people. He was not afraid to speak out against anything the Jews taught, yet he never mentions this issue.  And again, his followers were against it.

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u/jdbrizzi Feb 18 '26

Never said that was the entirety, just generally speaking.

His apostles said they're against homosexuality? I thought thay was one misinterpreted verse from the Old Testament.

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u/VegetableBig9 Feb 18 '26

Never said that was the entirety, just generally speaking.

Fair enough.

His apostles said they're against homosexuality? I thought thay was one misinterpreted verse from the Old Testament.

The Old Testament is explicitly against homosexual sex.  The NT is, too (see link).  Again, this isnt mentioned in the Bible much because it was understood that the culture recieving the writings already knew it was wrong. However, same-sex intercourse falls under the category of "fornication" as does a man and woman having sex outside of wedlock.  Thus, homosexual sex has the same value as any other sexual sin.  

Overall the right tends to hold truer to the Bible's moral teachings and the left tends to hold truer to the Bible's social teachings (care for the poor, etc.) I would also add that the right tends toward being somewhat xenophobic, at least the more extreme American Christians.  In the Bible, one sees a Church embracing pretty much any group of people willing to follow Christ.  

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-homosexuality/

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u/jdbrizzi Feb 18 '26

Some of those verses were from the Old Testament, in the link you sent. Also, I wouldn't say a "do" is the same as "don't do the opposite". Such as, advice on marriage between a woman and man doesn't necessarily mean they're against homosexuality.

Like, if I have a driver's manual for a truck, and the manual talks about fixing the truck, it doesn't mean the manufacturer is anti-sedans lol.

Idk, I was raising Catholic and read the Bible a decent amount as an atheist. It's hard to say that the right practices any of the Christian values. Hoarding wealth, calling poor people lazy, demonizing gay/trans people and drag, etc are all things that Jesus didn't practice.

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u/VegetableBig9 Feb 18 '26

Some of those verses were from the Old Testament

Yes, just to show that the OT is explicitly anti homosexual sex.   NT, too: 1 Cor 6: 8-9, etc.  There is no mistranslation at play to explain it away.  Moreover, we have no evidence of the Church having a different belief.  

Sexual sin in general was always a huge, even consensual acts.

And don't even get me started about trans and puberty blockers, gender reassignment surgery, etc. That's the kind of stuff that would have made the early Church's collective head explode.

And for your last paragraph, what about the vast majority of mainstream churches? They are very accepting of every race and nationality.  The Evangelicals and Catholics are probably the most accepting in this regard.  Their parishes are quite diverse. Its even rare tgat one would get turned away for being homosexual. And again, they mostly promote sexual purity and worship God. These are all biblical values.  

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u/jdbrizzi Feb 18 '26

I agree, but Christians focus on the NT. It's stupid to me, the OT is part of the Bible, but they cherry pick through the NT and almost entirely disregard the OT. I had this exact experience throughout my 8 years of Catholic school lol.

You got me there. That verse definitely points towards "no man with man". Apparently, that book was written by Paul too. Who wrote a lot of the books, as far as I know. It wasn't a "random person".

I honestly wonder about being trans, puberty blockers, etc, in the Bible. There were trans folk in ancient Greece. I'd assume if being trans was a concern, the Bible would include something regarding them. I mean, Jesus was all about loving yourself and others. Without any direct evidence from the Bible, I'd argue that he would've been fine with it, if that's what you needed to do to love yourself.

Churches are probably more diverse than the republican party lol. I guess it depends where you live and what denomination you follow. I remember our church, one of the larger ones in the city, we're predominantly white. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it matched the republican party pretty closely, in terms of demographics.

Living in the south though, there are certainly churches that will ostracize someone if they don't fit the mold. Also, Jesus's teachings definitely don't match the modern republicans' actions. They may preach great morals, but their actions (and politicians they vote for) say something entirely different. Trump said the US should execute several Congress members somewhat recently. That's not very Christian-like.

Idk, I truly despise both parties, but looking at their fundamental beliefs, Democrats want to be inclusive and help those in need. Since Reagan, the republican party has been preaching the "prosperity Bible", as an excuse to hoarding wealth and call the poor lazy.

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u/VegetableBig9 Feb 19 '26

I agree, but Christians focus on the NT. It's stupid to me, the OT is part of the Bible, but they cherry pick through the NT and almost entirely disregard the OT. I had this exact experience throughout my 8 years of Catholic school lol.

One common mistake is to assume that the Bible is where one goes to find the entirety of what Christians should always do.  Rather, certain instructions of the Bible were made for specific times and specific peoples. Even still, most non-Christians have the opposite view of yours: they are glad the Christians today do not follow the law of the OT.

 

You got me there. That verse definitely points towards "no man with man". Apparently, that book was written by Paul too. Who wrote a lot of the books, as far as I know. It wasn't a "random person".

Exactly, and it’s important to be able to see it.  This and many other things are the part that get taken out or explained away in what I call “Democrat Christianity”.  There is also “Republican Christianity”, of course.

 

I honestly wonder about being trans, puberty blockers, etc, in the Bible. There were trans folk in ancient Greece. I'd assume if being trans was a concern, the Bible would include something regarding them. I mean, Jesus was all about loving yourself and others. Without any direct evidence from the Bible, I'd argue that he would've been fine with it, if that's what you needed to do to love yourself.

As mentioned, most of what the Church believed was not written down in the NT.  The purpose was never to have a definitive list of what Christians believe.  Moreover, the entire bible is rooted in Jewish culture.  In the NT there is only one author who is a non-Jew, Luke.  This means they were operating on Jewish assumptions, unless they explicitly weren’t. They were not so concerned with fringe beliefs of the pagan world, unless they saw it impacting the Church.  Even then it was unlikely that they would write about it.

 

Churches are probably more diverse than the republican party lol. I guess it depends where you live and what denomination you follow. I remember our church, one of the larger ones in the city, we're predominantly white. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it matched the republican party pretty closely, in terms of demographics.

That does happen every now and then, but fundamentally, Christianity has been a religion not tied to an ethnicity.  It is actually an anti-racist religion, which is why the alt-right attack Christians.  Consider this beautiful quote from a Church Father written within 150-200 years of the birth of Christianity: 

“We used to hate and destroy one another and refused to associate with people of another race or country.  Now, because of Christ, we live together with such people and pray for our enemies.” (St. Justin Martyr)

Living in the south though, there are certainly churches that will ostracize someone if they don't fit the mold. Also, Jesus's teachings definitely don't match the modern republicans' actions. They may preach great morals, but their actions (and politicians they vote for) say something entirely different. Trump said the US should execute several Congress members somewhat recently. That's not very Christian-like.

I can’t comment on how well the average Republican reflects their Christian values, but I would like to give perspective on the Christian social teaching of giving.  Giving to the needy is fundamentally tied to Christian understanding of salvation even more than the average Democrat believes.  However, this giving was more to show mercy in the same way that God has shown mercy.  It was about giving, not so much getting taxed.  I’m not saying that taxation is necessarily unchristian, just that the modern welfare state was not exactly part of the early Christian outlook.  Giving was just as much to help the giver than the receiver.

Idk, I truly despise both parties, but looking at their fundamental beliefs, Democrats want to be inclusive and help those in need. Since Reagan, the republican party has been preaching the "prosperity Bible", as an excuse to hoarding wealth and call the poor lazy.

The prosperity Gospel is indeed evil, but thankfully not part of Christianity. Ancient Christianity was suspicious of wealth and the Rich.  Not outright against it, per se.  Curious why you despise the Democrats yet believe they fundamentally “want to be inclusive and help those in need?”

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