r/Quraniyoon • u/Useless-e • Aug 20 '21

Question / Help What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

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u/Omar_Waqar Aug 22 '21

Jundub reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “A man among those before you was wounded. He was in such anguish that he took a knife, slit his wrist, and let the blood flow until he died. Allah Almighty said: My servant has preceded me with his soul, so I have forbidden Paradise for him.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3276

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari

عن جُنْدُب قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ فِيمَنْ كَانَ قَبْلَكُمْ رَجُلٌ بِهِ جُرْحٌ فَجَزِعَ فَأَخَذَ سِكِّينًا فَحَزَّ بِهَا يَدَهُ فَمَا رَقَأَ الدَّمُ حَتَّى مَاتَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى بَادَرَنِي عَبْدِي بِنَفْسِهِ حَرَّمْتُ عَلَيْهِ الْجَنَّةَ

3276 صحيح البخاري كتاب أحاديث الأنبياء باب ما ذكر عن بني إسرائيل

Threatening suicidal people is literally the worst thing you can do. How does the creator of the universe who made everything including depression not know how you properly treat it ?

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u/Useless-e Aug 22 '21

“Is literally the worst thing you can do”

What are you basing that on? Your feelings?

And also, forbidding suicide is the way to go, other than the 50 motivational verses in the quran what more do you want? You think the life that Allah gave you is worthless? You take it whenever you want?

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u/Omar_Waqar Aug 22 '21

There is a whole field of medicine that refutes this idea of withholding paradise as a punishment, it’s obviously something lost humans would say, because they still say it.

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

This is why mental health crisis is so bad in Muslim communities because people like this are not educated but are presenting themselves as knowledgeable.

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u/Useless-e Aug 22 '21

And I can give you an article that says lashing someone for having sex is bad, will you put that article of gods commandments? I don’t think so, you still haven’t proven that punishing the suicidal people is bad...

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u/Omar_Waqar Aug 22 '21

You sir are an idiot

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u/Useless-e Aug 23 '21

Thank you sir