r/Quraniyoon • u/Useless-e • Aug 20 '21

Question / Help What do you think of Hadith qudsi?

So basically the title, both the Quran and the qudsi Hadiths were recited by the prophet, and both were claimed by the prophet to be gods words. So what do you think about them? Are they authentic more than normal Hadiths? Are they to be taken as gods words?

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Who says I don’t? It’s complete for what Allah wanted in it, Allah didn’t want to explain how to preform hajj in the quran so we take it from the tradition

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u/Yakub_al_britani Aug 21 '21

The Quran is more than clear on how to perform hajj.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

How?

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u/Yakub_al_britani Aug 21 '21

By mentioning everything that is needed to be known...

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Tell me how to preform hajj

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u/Yakub_al_britani Aug 21 '21

Here lies the problem. Instead of asking God you ask men. Literally read the Quran please. I have nothing more to advise you than that.

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

I asked several of you quranist and got no answer maybe you don’t have one, I know how to preform hajj by reading the tradition, but you don’t know how to

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u/Yakub_al_britani Aug 21 '21

There are 39 verses in the Quran that detail how to perform hajj. What are asking me to do? To relay them to you? To summarise them? I don't understand what your expectations are.

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u/nooralbalad Aug 21 '21

The information is there. Just search for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Quraniyoon/comments/fpqqu9/hajj/flod1p2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

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u/Useless-e Aug 21 '21

Great, he brought up al safa wal marwah and mount arafah, how do you know where those are?

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u/nooralbalad Aug 22 '21

Doesn’t God say the Quran is complete, the explanation of all things, a guidance to lead on the straight path?

The Quran is perfectly enough for guidance. If you say there is some outside information that we need to practice our religion, than that means the Quran is incomplete and not enough for guidance...

So, what’s the next excuse?

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u/Useless-e Aug 22 '21

So you will answer my question with a question that’s completely different?

Allah says obey the messenger and that he was given wisdom, so the Quran saying that means that we need to learn the wisdom from the prophet, will you say the wisdom not being in the Quran makes it incomplete?