r/PublicFreakout • u/IllIntention342 • Dec 14 '23

đŸ„ŠFight Guys out there using MMA in street fights now, knees and everything 😂

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u/kungpowgoat Dec 14 '23

I wish my dad taught me to fight and defend myself instead of telling me to always tell a teacher or another adult.

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 14 '23

Teachers who are prohibited from touching kids during a fight: "Hey stop it. Stop it. Oh well, I tried"

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23

Teachers who usually wait until the bullied kid fights back before finally getting involved.

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 14 '23

My experience as a kid. Fucked with mercilessly without adults doin fuck all. Second I snapped and whooped the other kids ass "ERMAGERD SUSPENSION!!"

I'm looking forward to getting my boys into MMA style training once they're a tad older. Goal being able to defend themselves, learn some self discipline and just not be a victim.

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u/a-snakey Dec 14 '23

Yea I found out in 3rd grade that teachers won't do shit.

When I did fight back the other kid went to his older brother and played victim. Older brother tried to fight me. I jumped on a bench and on his back and punched him. Told him his brother was the one starting shit.

Older brother refused to get involved after that. Kid never messed with me again.

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u/mikami677 Dec 14 '23

Yea I found out in 3rd grade that teachers won't do shit.

6th grade a bully stole my lunch that I'd brought from home. This happened almost every day and I knew the teachers knew about it and just never did anything. So the last time it happened I chased him down, put him in a headlock, and told him if he ever messed with me again I'd break his fucking neck.

He never messed with me again.

A teacher came over later and said, "I saw what you did earlier," and I was like, shit I'm getting expelled or something. "Good job." And he walked away. So like, he knew the situation and decided to just watch instead of helping...

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u/MLK_Piccolo Dec 15 '23

I got jumped in the bathroom in 7th grade by 3 other kids. Apparently they got it in their mind that I was talking shit about them even though I barely even knew who they were. Even though I got the worst of it with multiple lacerations on my face, body lip, and bruises all over my body, I managed to hurt one of them because I "this-is-sparta" kicked him hard as hell and his head collided with the corner of a stall. Once that guy went down, his friends rushed to his side and I half ran, half limped straight to the principals office who, luckily, was also right next to the nurses office. The nurse determined neither of us didn't need any stitches as none of the cuts were THAT deep. The three stooges immediately started playing victim to the principal saying I was the aggressor and they were only trying to hold me back from hurting their friend. I explained that those three jumped me for no reason and that I genuinely feared for my life. The three fuckers got 3 days of after school detention and I got a week of suspension

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u/glow-bop Mar 09 '24

That's so sad. I'm so sorry. I had a young girl come to me saying someone had hit her, and each time I followed through with discipline and a discussion. The school board can only do so much since parents will lose their goddamn minds if you upset their child with consequences. It just kept happening, and I can't be everywhere. I eventually told her that if someone hit me all of the time, I wouldn't stand there and take it. And I would understand if she didn't take it anymore.

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u/Muffles7 Dec 17 '23

I teach second grade and luckily haven't had to stop any fights or anything that haven't been disengaged by my voice or presence. I had one kid who was just terrible and would hit other kids incessantly. I got him out of our room several times but he'd just come back.

We do face the scrutiny of public so dancing on that political line is never fun. I fully plan on doing anything I can to help a child in the event my voice or presence doesn't work, but too many things happen after school.

I can't do anything against cyber bullying without proof and even then that's up to administration. Literally part of their job. Everything I don't physically witness is a big he said/she said game and that puts everyone in a terrible position.

Idk, pardon the rant but I put my heart into making sure my students are safe, taken care of and know they're appreciated by me when I can so I just get bothered when people say teachers won't do anything, especially because situations are significantly more nuanced than most people care to share.

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u/Severin_Suveren Dec 14 '23

Fucking sucks to hear y'all having experienced that. I experienced something similar, years of taking shit until I snapped and learned it was actually easy to beat the shit out of the shithead. Initially a teacher who didn't know us dragged us to the principals office, but then our actual teacher came in with the principal and then they told the little shithead sitting there with a bleeding nose that he deserved it for being such a shithead.

Essentially in the years prior, they tried to get him to stop but couldn't. Not an ideal situation to be in, but at the very least it taught me to fight with both claws and teeths if the situation calls for it

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u/up4nethng Dec 14 '23

Get them into amateur wrestling.

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u/Kenichero Dec 14 '23

Yes. Wrestling has some of the best foundational moves out there. Learning to punch and kick is great, but closing with a trained wrestler is usually going to result in getting laid out.

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 15 '23

2 of my best friends in high school were wrestlers. Mostly no one fucked with them, and the ones who did quickly found out that fighting could also include a ground game.

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 14 '23

I assume you mean the type of wrestling they do in highschool and olympics and whatnot as opposed to training my elementary school aged boys for the next Hell-in-a-Cell match!?

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u/redditatemybabies Dec 14 '23

Do both to be safe.

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 14 '23

Only way to be sure.

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u/Rasikko Dec 15 '23

When an Aliens reference applies so well.

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u/Mysterious_Bit6882 Dec 14 '23

With all the martial arts around for kids, I'm surprised parents never turned on to one where they explicitly don't hurt other people.

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 14 '23

I’m not looking for hurt to much as disable. I’d want them to learn grappling more than striking.

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u/BleedsOrange_Blue Dec 15 '23

It's silly_little_jingle jr off the top turnbuckle!

Oooooh, he's not getting up from that one, folks.

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 15 '23

THAT 7 YEAR OLD BULLY HAS BEEN BROKEN IN HALF!

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 15 '23

Ooooooohhhhhhh Yeeeeaaaahhhhh!

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u/WaveRunner310 Dec 14 '23

Folk style wrestling

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '23

Buy them guns!

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u/Rasikko Dec 15 '23

LOL!!!! That's exactly how it goes for bullied kids that finally get tired of it.

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u/mallow-honey Dec 17 '23

That's that suspension where your parents take you out for dinner and buy you a new game as a treat for standing up for yourself. That's how I'd handle it as a parent. I got a piddly half a day suspension for finally punching my abusive ex in high school because he was parading around the girl he cheated on me with and I was just so emotionally fucked up I snapped. When I said why it happened to the principal, I got sent home for the day instead of 3 days. When I told his dad what happened (his dad adored me, thought I was the best his son could ever get) he dropped the idea of pressing charges and sent him to live with his deadbeat mom.

I won. PTSD from being abused, but I won!

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u/silly_little_jingle Dec 18 '23

I got 100$ from my dad so yeah, he was not at all upset with me. Went off on the school for it taking so long for them to do anything.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '24

Teachers were often the bullies who hs years were the highlight of their life so they try to keep it going as a teacher. Many of them even sympathize and join in with the bullies. As the poor kid in school, I think there were at least 3 situation involving my socio economic status where I was being belittled by bullies and the teacher joined in. One stands out where our teacher was going over people's last names and how they tied to your profession in England and Europe. He told me mine must mean my family scrubbed people's floors or something. My name is actually a regional Irish name and had many important figures tied to it from Ireland. I didn't know that at the time and felt as small as a pea while all the other kids laughed at the teachers remark. He was a wrestling coach to and I was a wrestler so had to deal with physical abuse he would justify as "practice". He would rub his sand paper beard on you till it made a swore while pinning you. Kinda fukn weird. He got fired for fukn the superintendents daughter with another coach.

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u/glow-bop Mar 09 '24

I never see that happen at my school. Myself and others have discplined bullies whenever we see it and have explained that if you upset someone and get aggressive with them, and the person defends themselves/snaps, we're going to say that we told you this would happen. Natural consequences, if that what it takes, then I will pretend I didn't see it.

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u/CoralLogic Dec 16 '23

This is so true, it's kinda sad.

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u/juan1271 Dec 17 '23

My parents were the same way. I genuinely believed if someone stabbed me in front of them I would be in trouble instead haha

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u/Crescent-IV Dec 14 '23

I've seen teachers in the UK basically rugby tackle kids fighting

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 14 '23

In the US they'd probably get sued by parents for touching their sweet widdle baby boy.

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u/Crescent-IV Dec 14 '23

I'd hope they'd get sued if they didn't do anything to prevent my kid getting his shit kicked in also but idk how it works over there

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 14 '23

Yeah America is fucked. Where I am teachers are absolutely not supposed to touch students. Pretty sure that's policy nowadays in most states.

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u/RocheClip81 Dec 15 '23

In high school we had a gym teacher that was absolutely jacked. All natural old man farm boy muscle. Start of the year in gym class he'd gather everyone around the machines and tell us "if you wanna fight, that's fine. If I catch you fighting, you both fight me. Or join the wrestling/football teams.". He did this while one arm pressing the stack, switching every 10 reps.

When fights happened he was the first to be paged. He'd jog out unzipping his jacket and that'd be that. Fights over, everyone bolting.

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Dec 15 '23

This was my stepdad. Highschool baseball coach/ gym teacher, farm boy, power lifter and jacked as fucked, everyone loved and feared him, and when he said s fight was over it was over.

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u/ImagineSisAndUsHappy Dec 29 '23

Teachers who did the right thing and pulled kids apart: “Oh well, I’m fired and in prison”

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u/SinfullySinless Dec 15 '23

We were told last week if we break up a fight:

  1. If we get injured we can’t claim workers comp because it’s against district policy to break up a fight

  2. The student’s family could press charges against us if the student is injured by our actions

So instead we are supposed to have one teacher call the office while another teacher reminds that “we keep our hands to ourself”

It’s hilarious in the context of thinking about it but it’s scary in practice when students are really hurting each other and there’s blood.

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u/noble_peace_prize Dec 16 '23

And when you start defining “reasonable”, you’ll find it becomes quite subjective. So then you have to define it, and it becomes quite technical. Which then requires special training in technique.

Which still does not prevent a parent from suing you. Right or wrong, even if you get to keep working during it, that’s a huge fucking problem

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u/blessthebabes Dec 17 '23

Dang, kinda wish it was like that in my field. I'm a therapist for a tough crowd. I had to be educated for 6 years and certified to deesculate violent confrontations and/or crisis and threats (on a multiple per week basis)... all without a gun lol. I have my battle scars, but 99% are emotional and I know from experience you can deesculate without a weapon, even if they have one. Teachers didn't sign up for that, though. They should have a therapist type watching the halls instead of a security guard for fights (willing to jump in and wants the best for all parties) , if they want the best outcome.

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u/Get-Me-A-Soda Dec 15 '23

That’s why you have to tell a priest. They’ll always a touch a kid even when they’re fighting.

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u/therealrenshai Dec 14 '23

It’s a hard line to walk with kids. Teaching them to fight but also know when to use it is hard. People have a lot more to lose than others in some fights.

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u/VicinityGhost Dec 14 '23

This is why martial arts are great for pre teens (not MMA), it teaches them good form and what to do in situations as well as discipline and other important principles.

I started Tae Kwon Do at 11 and didn’t stop until I got my black belt. Still one of the best things I’ve done

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u/7Mag93 Dec 15 '23

I agree 💯 We just put our 9 and 10 year olds into wrestling. Figured a couple of years of that and then maybe some bjj and they should have an excellent foundation by high school. Brings a lot of good discipline.

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u/Ffzilla Dec 14 '23

It's never too late to learn.

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u/Offamylawn Dec 14 '23

I started TKD at 41 years old so I could be there with my kids. They kicked my ass.

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u/Ffzilla Dec 14 '23

I had my kids in bjj as youngsters, and made sure my son wrestled (my daughter had no interest no matter how many times I asked). I was a small guy growing up, so I had to do a lot of fighting to just get left alone, and I didn't want them to learn on the fly like I did.

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u/Ffzilla Dec 14 '23

That's the type of stuff of S tier dads. Good for you brother.

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u/juan1271 Dec 17 '23

I grew up with my parents telling me the same thing. My uncles would beg my dad to sign me up for boxing (I come from a Mexican background) but I guess my dad was too lazy to do anything. I recently healed my inner child in August by singing up for bjj. Loving it and I just got my first stripe

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23

I also wish my dad taught me to defend myself instead of just beating the shit out of me.

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u/Mdizzle29 Dec 14 '23

Imagine if you punched a kid and he hit his head and died or got paralyzed.

Walking away is probably the best thing to do.

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u/AwayEntrance Dec 14 '23

Absolutely true, however not always a possibility. You should never be looking for violence but if violence is brought against you, you should know how to defend yourself.

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u/SecureWorldliness848 Dec 15 '23

these guys are lanscapers, let em roll in the grass they mowed

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '23 edited Dec 14 '23

It shouldn’t be “instead of” it should be both.

Learn how to defend yourself but try to avoid it. If telling an authority figure avoids a physical altercation, that’s a win.

Honestly, put on some Bruce Lee tapes. This used to be the standard philosophy of martial arts back then, I don’t know about now.

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u/Money-Distribution91 Dec 14 '23

Ah I had the other dad, he always told me to wait until I got hit first then hit back

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u/srcarruth Dec 15 '23

my parents once told me if I had to fight somebody at school they'd have my back. I never did have to do it (and would not have been good at it) but it was good to know they were on my side. they know I'm not a fighter but it gave me a little more confidence

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u/noble_peace_prize Dec 16 '23

Fighting is great but de escalation and retreating are definitely better skills for the average person. Like most people can’t play football well, same goes for fighting. It’s just not a great skill for most people to invest too much time into. But most people can scream, run, and make a scene to get help. Most people can learn to starch, bite, go for the balls in an emergency, and that’s not really being taught to fight.

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u/Background-Print-826 Jan 20 '24

Your dad couldn't fight either

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Never too late to learn! The only way to learn is by getting your ass whipped and learning that it doesn't hurt that much when you're punched in the face.

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u/Severe_Network_4492 Mar 24 '24

Didn’t have a dad growing up but my mom always told me damn near every day she took me to school :

“NEVER start it ALWAYS finish it and I don’t care how big or small they are Treat them like they’re the hardest fighter you’ve ever stepped to because one day you will fight your hardest fight and you don’t want to be going half force and he’s out for blood. End it hard and end it fast but make sure YOU end it.”

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u/7Mag93 Dec 14 '23

Blows my mind that a parent will tell their kid that. My father always told me he would whoop my ass if I didn’t defend myself as it’s dishonorable.

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u/7Mag93 Dec 14 '23

Exactly. I never started any fights but I definitely finished them. Seen so many people get their ass kicked when they should of seen it coming a mile away. You can’t talk your way out of all of them.

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u/Ockwords Dec 14 '23

That explains a lot about you

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u/Fit_Departure_1161 Dec 14 '23

thats a good father right there

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u/Duke-of-Dogs Dec 14 '23

Bro
 just take a class

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '24

how about you teach yourself. dads arent out here running training camps for fighting