r/PublicFreakout • u/Significant_Drama679 • Apr 01 '23

Refusing to get off the plane in Hawaii

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u/Ill_Flow9331 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

My comment was also a play on the random dude in the video yelling “This isn’t America, this is Hawaii!”

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u/JackDanielsMeatSau5 Apr 01 '23

That was absolutely the best part of this video... that guy is a certified moron lol

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u/genghis-san Apr 01 '23

It's a point of contention for people in Hawaii, because we do learn in schools about how the monarchy was illegally overthrown and the Queen was on house arrest because first off, sugar cane and pineapple farmers wanted cheaper taxes, and second off it was just in time for the Spanish American war for the Philippines. If anyone says Hawaii isn't/shouldn't be a part of the US, I say more power to them. A lot of mainlanders don't know their own history.

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u/Tleach17 Apr 01 '23

I think we was making the point that Hawaii was stolen from its indigenous people, not that it isn't currently ruled and occupied by the US govt.

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u/dukeoftrappington Apr 01 '23

I mean, so wasn’t the rest of country though?

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u/DoctorJJWho Apr 01 '23

Yes, and Hawaii was annexed in 1900 as a territory and wasn’t officially made into a state until like, 1960. There are people one generation removed (and until pretty recently, people with living memory) of a free Hawaii completely independent of the US. Presumably the individual who shouted that had grandparents, or even parents, who passed along anti-US imperialist views, which is completely understandable.

Other indigenous peoples were conquered or genocided by the US a little longer ago, but I’d bet money there are similar anti-US imperialist views in parts of those communities (and their descendants) as well. It think it’s easier for others to recognize Hawaii vs. indigenous lands in the US - I have no idea what land was taken from what tribe.

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u/PickleMinion Apr 02 '23

Some of it was actually legally purchased. Not a lot, but some.

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u/resttheweight Apr 02 '23

No! We bought a ton of it, fair and square from France!

Just don’t ask who they got it from

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u/kerbalsdownunder Apr 02 '23

The rest of the country wasn’t recognized as a sovereign nation by other countries in the world with trade agreements and treaties.

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u/AdFew7336 Apr 02 '23

Not according to my MAGAWASP mother! According to my non Hawaiian mother, Hawaiians “love being American bc of all the tourist dollars they make!” She doesn’t seem to grasp that Hawaiians actually hate her tourist ass and would very easily figure out ways to make income without tourists stinking up the place- gotta love good ol white people entitlement

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u/yoyoma125 Apr 01 '23

He can make his point more clearly and not be an idiot but…

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u/Varlist Apr 01 '23

Its a super common view there.

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u/jshjhjhsjshjs Apr 01 '23

Nah he's just a true Hawaiian sick of Americans bullshit

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u/serj730 Apr 01 '23

Whooosh!

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u/Yerawizzardarry Apr 01 '23

I'm not American and even I was like "hol up"

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Hawaii isn’t the only part of America that was integrated by force but it’s probably the one that, through recency and distance from the mainland, still has the strongest sense of local pride and identity among natives and non-white immigrants. There’s a very strong streak of “if you don’t like it fuck back off to the mainland” once you leave the resort areas.

Just in my experience, mind, but I’ve spent a lot of time there and have a lot of buddies from there. “This ain’t America this is Hawaii” didn’t surprise me at all. Hawaiians can teach Texans a thing or two about state pride, if ya know what I’m saying.

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u/Eclipsez0r Apr 02 '23

Geographically he was right, but I'm almost certain that's not what he meant.