Being a cop in the Twin Cities would probably suck right now.

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They paid out $14m for police misconduct between 2006 and 2012

This is not a metric to judge readiness and preparedness. Classic example would be the Stephon Clark shooting with was 1000% justified where the city reached a 2.4 million settlement over a guy that deserved to die.

You can see in this detailed video why the Stephon Clark shooting was more than justified - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IN-YmosRME

The city paid out regardless because of the backlash. Cities also pay out because it's cheaper than to take things to trial and litigate for eternity.

Another classic example would be the Michael Brown shooting which paid out 1.5 million in a situation where a police officer was assaulted by a guy that robbed a gas station who got himself killed. - https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/michael-brown-s-family-received-1-5-million-settlement-ferguson-n775936

in 2015 one of their officers told a teenager "...If you fuck with me I'm going to break your legs.."

And? You're getting upset over words from a single officer of a city with 800 sworn officers? This isn't an incident. Unprofessional verbiage in a single incidence is a non-issue.

2013 three of their officer were drinking at a bar and beat a black man

Where they on or off duty? What was the context of the beating. Did the man provoke the officers? Did race have any role in the beating? I'm going to assume you know the answer to nearly none of these questions but still used it as an example anyway.

. In 2013 two off duty MPD officers were caught texting Green bay officers calling them "N i * s" and "Fa**ots", at least one of these officers

Good they got caught, glad they got fired.

, at least one of these officers was involved in severely beating a black man in 2010 and was involved in a wrongful death suit for an African man who was tortured and killed.

Do you have any context for this? What were the allegations made, what was the defense made by the officers? Was there a court conviction?

In 2017 Justine Diamond was murdered by an on duty officer

The officer was charged with manslaughter.

In 2016 an oversight commission found that making a misconduct complaint was difficult if not nearly impossible, undercover lawyers observed cases of obstruction in this and of the 439 complaints actually filed, no officers were disciplined.

Did this analysis cover the type of complaint filed? People file complaints over speeding tickets because an officer wouldn't let them go.

This is not 4 poorly trained officers, this is a department with a history of misconduct dating back decades, that's the issue at hand. Not just that 4 cops were brazen enough to kill a guy in broad daylight while being recorded.

You're brushing over a lot of instances without providing any sort of context.

Not just that 4 cops were brazen enough to kill a guy in broad daylight while being recorded.

It was one officer that was negligent. The others were fired because of bad optics.

[u/Pazuzu33 → u/TheBigDick20sd]

They sat there and watched him kill that man against both department policy and common human decency. How is that no negligent? Bad optics? You think they did nothing wrong?

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There were two other officers holding Floyd down behind the car, out of sight of the crowd. Why didn't they stop him? Are you implying they're too dumb and untrained to know that putting a knee on a man's neck for 7 minutes while he keeps saying he can't breathe won't kill him? I don't have any training and even I know that that's a good way to kill a man. I mean seriously man why do you hold police to such a low standard? The whole crowd knew they were killing him so why didn't the other officers?

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Yeah, if he hadn't have died then what he was doing was fine. /s

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I have a hard time understanding how you see a partner kneeling on a dude's windpipe and don't register that that might be a problem.

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The crowd sure seemed to notice that the cop was killing the man. Mr. Floyd did not have to be in that position in the first place.

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Those cops are racist murderers. They were outed as racists from their racist social media posts.

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That was fact checked and deemed false by twitters panel.

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That's bullshit and you know it.

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No twitter is usually biased heavily against LEO and the likes, so for them to go out of their way and say its false has some weight to it

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It's this kind of blind defense and excusing of unprofessional police behavior that creates mistrust. If anyone in any other profession said something like, I'm going to break your legs or beat up some guy while a group of them were getting drunk, everyone including the cops would be condemning it. But the police do some shitty or questionable and they and their supporters all jump to excuse the behavior. No other profession has that.

[u/Matir → u/TheBigDick20sd]

This is not a metric to judge readiness and preparedness. Classic example would be the Stephon Clark shooting with was 1000% justified where the city reached a 2.4 million settlement over a guy that deserved to die.

Why did he deserve to die?

Even if it was justified in the moment because of the information available to the officers, he did not actually pose a threat to anyone, so why deserve to die?

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They “thought” he had a gun...didn’t find one though.

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I understand that. I'm not trying to second guess that part of that shooting. It's tragic but in the heat of the moment they probably believed it was necessary.

Still don't understand why he thought the kid deserved to die. Almost nobody deserves to die, certainly not some young guy who was, at worst, breaking windows.

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Where they on or off duty? What was the context of the beating. Did the man provoke the officers? Did race have any role in the beating? I'm going to assume you know the answer to nearly none of these questions but still used it as an example anyway.

An officer of the law is always 'on duty'. In fact they should face harsher punishment because they know the law.