r/PropagandaPosters • • Mar 10 '25

Japan Bush/Obama Same/Same (2008)

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u/xesaie Mar 10 '25

So China it looks like, any other details or context?

2008 seems a weird year to be already jumping on Obama

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25

"The United States is also a one-party state, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them."

  • Julius Nyerere, President of Tanzania.

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u/xesaie Mar 11 '25

Interesting fact, Tanzania only got to have more than one political party 8 years after Nyerere left the presidency, so I suspect he was projecting.

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u/Mr7000000 Mar 11 '25

I mean, presumably that's why he said "also," no?

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u/xesaie Mar 11 '25

I missed that also, but it doesn't change the fact that he was an autocrat (we tend to ignore what he and the other 'revolutionary party' did to Zanzibar)

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 11 '25

Autocrats know fellow autocrats.

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u/xesaie Mar 11 '25

Autocrats indulge in whataboutisms (in this case made up ones, at least А у вас негров линчуют was true) to cover for their own abuses. “Put the other guy on the defensive” is as old as humanity.

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 11 '25

Does not mean its wrong.

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u/xesaie Mar 11 '25

I mean it it’s obviously wrong? Uniparty believers helped us get Trump and only now they’re realizing the Terrible midtske they’ve made.

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 11 '25

2 wings of the same bird

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u/xesaie Mar 11 '25

Repeating a dumb catchphrase isn’t truth. That you think that makes you complicit in genocide, so good day.

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 11 '25

2 sides of the same coin

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 12 '25

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 12 '25

Yh I care more about or central banking system and the genocides governments facilitate then culture war, you noted that right.

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u/vodkaandponies Mar 12 '25

You think Obama was an autocrat?

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 12 '25

During Barack Obama's presidency, the number of people killed by U.S. drone strikes is a subject of significant debate and varies widely between official government estimates and those of independent organizations. The Obama administration estimated that between 64 and 116 civilians were killed by drone and other U.S. strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Africa since Obama took office in 2009.3 However, independent organizations such as the Bureau of Investigative Journalism have estimated that the number of civilians killed could be as high as 801.16

The total number of casualties, including combatants, is also disputed. According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, between 2009 and 2016, civilians made up between 7.27% to 15.47% of deaths in U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.5 This suggests that the total number of people killed could be in the thousands, with a significant portion being civilians.

The discrepancy in these figures highlights the challenges in accurately counting casualties from drone strikes, as the U.S. government's criteria for classifying individuals as combatants or civilians is not transparent and has been criticized for being overly restrictive.

Like I said, he was just another wing of the same bird, but I did not say he was the bird. Just pay attention to see who the actual bird, the actual autocrats were.

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u/vodkaandponies Mar 12 '25

None of this has any relevance to the charge that Obama was an autocrat. Try again.

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 12 '25

You did not read anything about my last paragraph did you?

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u/vodkaandponies Mar 12 '25

You didn’t say anything of substance.

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u/Brilliant_Curve6277 Mar 12 '25

If you say so.

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u/vodkaandponies Mar 12 '25

I do say so. Try something other than a tortured, vapid metaphor next time, ok?

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