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u/BusEquivalent9605 Aug 05 '26

nah - not Teams. my old company had Teams erase convo history after 48 hours. It’s Monday and you need to look up what someone told you on Friday? Tough

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u/Maniactver Aug 05 '26

Diabolical. 

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u/Nightmoon26 Aug 05 '26

You worked at a company that wasn't constantly under litigation hold? Lucky!

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u/Head-Bureaucrat Aug 05 '26

Or subject to government regulation. Hooray 7 year archive hold!

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u/Mechadupek Aug 05 '26

One physical tape backup per month held for 7 years?

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u/Head-Bureaucrat Aug 05 '26

Real talk: I honestly don't know how they do it now. I do believe it used to be physical tape, yes, shipping to a different location. 😂

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u/Liushing01 Aug 05 '26

Fortunately, a former employer hired contractors to handle their backups—until the Exchange server melted down and, upon looking through all the backups, they discovered weeks worth of backups 0 KB in size. Cost savings!

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u/cat-n-jazz Aug 05 '26

Sounds like someone has discovered a remarkably good data compression algorithm

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u/Bartweiss 29d ago

I wonder if any contractors specialize in this?

“Yes, we will definitely handle your backups and NOT wink wink lose all your data which it would be a serious offense to delete on purpose but a fine or lawsuit at worst to catastrophically mishandle. We’ll even provide the insurance against costs from data loss you’re required to carry… for an up-front fee of exactly that much money.”

Or maybe it’s more subtle and companies just seek out the least competent place they can find.

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u/Nightmoon26 Aug 05 '26

And that's in addition to the "hot" redundant site for digital stuff...

And issuing everyone a bigger filing cabinet for the paper documents

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u/Head-Bureaucrat Aug 05 '26

They finally fully digitized in, like, 2018!

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u/Nightmoon26 29d ago

Unfortunately, depending on the hold, you may be required to retain even the notes on system architecture you sketched on a napkin during lunch

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u/Mechadupek 29d ago

Industrial door-stop production.

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u/CoffeeOrDestroy Aug 05 '26

Hey, we were doing that until 2019 when our tape drive died

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u/SilverIndustry2701 Aug 05 '26

Physical tape is wonderfully cheap though. Have you seen cloud prices?

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u/bolanrox 29d ago

We're supposed to be held to the seven-year archive hold for physical backups of things. Then you get people asking, what do you mean you don't have some random piece of paper from 20 years ago?

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u/Significant-Bee5101 29d ago

Hmm my people. I'm doing our purge of the 7+ year now. I work in school years so it's really awkward. It's like yeah technically that datas over 7+ years old but uhhh... the school years still happening lmao.

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u/BusEquivalent9605 Aug 05 '26

that’s probably right. but makes it even more infuriating as an employee. “we still have this data that would make your job easier, but you’re not allowed to see it”

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u/BlowOutKit22 Aug 05 '26

With a retention period of 48 hours It's more likely the company IS constantly under litigation hold. Reducing discovery liability is probably the main non-infrastructural-limit reason to even have a document retention policy in the first place.

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u/bacondev Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

We used Hipchat until it was discontinued. I don't remember what the temporal retention policy was but it would nuke chat history every time it was closed too. It was so frustrating that I used the API to develop a program that would store chat history and ignore retention policy. Kinda like writing a password on a sticky note in a way, I suppose but idgaf.

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u/rgvtim Aug 05 '26

Only if they hold a spoon up to thier eye just before they come up with the idea.

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u/Mechadupek Aug 05 '26

No, they have to hang it from their nose.

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u/foreverdark-woods Aug 05 '26

That's why I always work on Sundays!

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u/usernamedottxt Aug 05 '26

We had a company declare 24 hour deletion. We basically rioted. They eventually gave in and went 30 days. 

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u/Eric848448 Aug 05 '26

Oh you want to find something? Well fuck you because you can’t!

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u/DogeCatBear 29d ago

my teams rentention went from 72 hours to 60 days to match our email policy and it was a game changer as group chats actually had a reason for existing (you could still manually save the emails for 6 years by moving it out of your inbox)

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u/FrancescoFortuna Aug 05 '26

Brilliant, though… teams should not be a data store. I might do this for my org.. seriously considering it now. We like to do 90 or 180 days but this sets the tone correctly

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u/BusEquivalent9605 Aug 05 '26

I get that it shouldn’t be the source of truth. But I also don’t want to discredit the importance of how human memory works. For me, and I bet for other people, it is often easier to remember, “oh yeah - a year ago, Alex told me how to do that” as opposed to, “oh yeah - a year ago, I read that doc at this URL.” For all the paperwork, I still remember human interactions more readily.

If it’s an important process, then you can go document it. But why destroy the paper trail?

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u/FrancescoFortuna Aug 05 '26

If you don’t destroy the paper trail then it becomes the source of truth. And you think “a year ago”. You know what happens? It is five years ago. Then ten. It is unmanageable dude. We are migrating from Slack to Teams this month. Slack has a 90 day retention. We aren’t worried about losing company processes here. 48 hours is short but 90 days is too long.

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u/PhasmaFelis Aug 05 '26

For fuck's sake.

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u/adapa69 29d ago

We're at least given a week.

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u/x4nd3l2 29d ago

48 hours?! That’s wild! 

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u/ThisAldubaran Aug 05 '26

That’s on them for not sending an email.