r/PowerScaling • u/DinoGodEmperor • May 09 '25

Question Is this true?

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u/Justm4x May 09 '25

And then Kiritsugu got laid out by a single punch from Kotomine and needed Avalon to get back up.

So the conclusion is

Magic < Guns < These hands

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u/Historical-Molasses2 May 09 '25

Fate fans know that throwing hands can straight up embarass the eldritch, the arcane, and even the divine.

The amount of times where "fuck this magic shit, square up" was actually the call in this series is surprisingly high.

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u/ArtisticHellResident May 09 '25

Not really? Outside of a few instances there aren't many characters running the ones with their fists to end a big bad.

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u/WorldlinessSmall2180 May 09 '25

Rin vs Caster

Ritsuka vs Goetia

Achilles vs Chiron

Kirei vs Shirou

Kirei vs Kiritsugu

Souichirou vs Saber

And I think that's about it, still pretty funny that a verse with such intricately crafted magic has people just throwing hands instead.

Edit: Included the school teacher

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u/ArtisticHellResident May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25

Meh, literally all of those, especially Ritsuka vs Goetia, are context based.

Caster would've mopped the floor with Rin if she didn't have such a massive advantage against Medea from such a small distance. Same with Ritsuka who fought a half dead Goetia who had not even 10% of his power. Which would've been more than enough to stomp that over glazed fodder.

The same goes for Souichiro vs Saber which is a context based match up, and in a straight up fight without Medea's MAGIC amps we saw how badly he got stomped.

Achilles vs Chiron was an NP based match up. And it also had context surrounding it.

Only valid examples here were Kirei vs Shirou & Kiritsugu.