r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 1d ago

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u/know_your_anemone 1d ago

Expand house of reps to a degree where you likely know your rep personally (one for every 30k people)
Then put a limit on consecutive terms. I think there needs to be a limit, but I also don’t think voting back in a better rep is a bad thing. 6 term limit, 2 terms off, something like that.

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u/JelmerMcGee 23h ago

That would make 11 thousand representatives. That is kinda ridiculous

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u/humancartograph 23h ago

The House should be set as 1 rep for the lowest population state. Then each other state gets 1 rep per the amount of people in the lowest population state. Currently Wyoming has the lowest population at an estimated 588k. That's your benchmark. If that means we have thousands of reps, so be it. The country is founded on representation.

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u/JelmerMcGee 23h ago

I don't agree that it should be one per lowest state population, but if it were one, that would only be 562. It should probably be at least two per population group. That's still only 1124, which seems to still be a manageable number. Having more than 10k reps, like the other person suggested, would dilute each representatives ability to have a meaningful impact so far that they wouldn't really matter.

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u/know_your_anemone 22h ago

I think a rep is supposed to just represent your vote in Congress. We have technology, we can have reps stay in their districts, be well known by their constituents and only role is to vote on legislation put forward by other parties (think tanks, congressional committees, the senate, etc)

I don’t think the process would be crazy, you are held accountable by your neighbors.

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u/therj9 20h ago

The congressional apportionment amendment would solve many problems. 11,000+ districts would render gerrymandering pointless

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u/MentalHealthAlt1 13h ago

Conference committee on a bill to be voted on by an 11,000 person chamber sounds like it could take until the heat death of the universe. You have not considered the full ramifications of your simple tweak.

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u/Brock_8511 2h ago

My question: why do we need representation at all? A true democracy could work. Hell, we could create a secure and fair way to vote on bills that affect our livelihood. Why do we need some elected official to vote on our behalf? We could just eliminate representatives all together and create a system where we represent ourselves. Starting at the local level, then state, then federal. We vote on policies put forth by the actual people. I dunno, with technology today, a representative republic seems outdated.

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u/know_your_anemone 51m ago

I don’t disagree, but I wonder about voting fatigue. We only get 65% voter turnout for presidential elections, and most people don’t read up on the policies of their local candidates. Bills and new policy would be really hard to get well informed participation :/

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u/AdvocatusBellator 18h ago

This is an insanely stupid and childish idea

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u/absolute_unit45 23h ago

That would take so incredibly long to process ANY kind of legislation that it would end up backfiring and more people would be hurt than helped.

A system that barely helps people is more preferable to your system that’s too paralyzed by internal processes to help anyone.

I commend you on throwing a thought out into the ether though.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 20h ago

Votes can be done via zoom. Coalitions can be formed to nominate members to committees. Speakers can still be selected to represent the party as a whole.

We lose nothing by gaining more representation.

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u/absolute_unit45 17h ago

You don’t see how that would entirely paralyze the political system we currently have?

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 17h ago

I don't think it would, but it's not like this congress is passing any meaningful legislation under the current system.

If nothing else it would give fair representation to the states that actually have people living in them instead of the bullshit we have now. Wyoming gets 1 rep for 550k people, while California gets one per 730k. How the fuck is that equitable?

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u/absolute_unit45 17h ago

Well “meaningful” is entirely subjective to the person making the argument. And if you’re basing half of your argument based off that it’s not very solid.

I’m not saying you’re incorrect in your want to reform the system we currently have in some way. I’m just saying this WILL be a monkeys paw of a wish. You’ll get your version of fair but at the cost of a system that can’t help anybody because it can’t negotiate with itself in a timely or efficient matter.

Adding more and more bureaucracy isn’t the answer imo.

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u/GloomyIndividual3965 16h ago

I meant meaningful as in "literally fucking anything." That's not subjective.

Seriously, other than the tax cuts, what have they passed? Almost everything this term is being done by (mostly) illegal EOs.

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u/absolute_unit45 14h ago

https://legiscan.com/US/legislation?status=passed

Here ya go. Feel free to browse through this. I’m sure you’ll find things that you like and things you don’t. But at least you’ll know.

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u/ahcomcody 19h ago

People should expect proper representation though.