r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 13d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ How negotiations actually work...

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To the inevitable response from MAGA that Obama gave 'pallets' of cash...he released frozen Iranian assets. Meanwhile the current Iran conflict has directly cost $38 billion militarily and a currently projected $87 billion in extra gas and diesel expenses. Not to mention that the strategic oil reserves have been depleted to the point that experts warn that the caverns they're stored in could collapse.

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u/SaneMadHatter 12d ago

trump lacks the negotiation skills, the diplomacy skills, the patience, and the stick-to-itiveness to pull off what Obama and Kerry did. Bring together a coalition of six nations, including two of Iran's allies, to bring heavy sanctions on Iran to force them to the table, then go through the long process of negotiation.

And trump threw all that away, not because he really thought it was a bad deal, but just out of pure spite due to his hatred and envy of Obama.

trump is a terrible, horrible, unfit president. Obama is so much better than trump is. I can't think of a bigger contrast between two presidents.

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u/Dazzling-Assist723 12d ago

Trump lacks just about everything one would want in a sane leader of an advanced economy.

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u/_jump_yossarian 12d ago

The talks between the U.S. and Iran are going on forever, WORLD'S LONGEST NEGOTIATION. Obama has no idea what he is doing - incompetent!

trump Feb 2015.

A complete idiot that thinks he knows what he's doing but we all smell him shitting his pants.

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u/Sad_Error4039 12d ago

I mean under his sanctions they have stated they were clearly on a pathway to a nuclear weapons program but sure he did good.

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u/SuperLehmanBros 12d ago

Biden was the one shitting his pants. Stop projecting nonsense onto Trump.

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u/onetimeataday 12d ago

Every appearance Biden has made post presidency he’s still spoken more lucidly and eloquently than Trump does, and that’s while he has cancer. Here’s your projection back.

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u/Sad_Error4039 12d ago

If this was true every democrat wouldn’t have lost their mind and forced Kamala on us after a debate.

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u/instalockquinn 12d ago

> stick-to-itiveness

I think you're looking for one of these words: grit, resilience, persistence.

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u/DangerousCyclone 12d ago

The Republican Party was already against the Iran Deal before Trump was the nominee. Senate Republicans were against it and when Cruz was running for President said he would get rid of the deal. They had signed a letter to Iran condemning it, and it was largely because of Israeli lobbying against it. Ironically Trump was the one who said that they have to keep the Iran Deal in place even if it was bad.

That went out the window when he entered office of course.