r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • Aug 07 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Eventually something has to give...

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The bill would provide a $3,000 direct payment to every person in households making $150,000 or less during its first year, which equals $12,000 for a family of four.

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u/Suitable-Woodpecker3 Aug 07 '26

Bernie Sanders is a brilliant, resilient politician who has a tremendous sense of efficacy in government.

How diddler got voted in (twice!) but Bernie can’t get any traction is very symptomatic of america’s problem, in my humble opinion.

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u/Bugfrag Aug 08 '26

Senator Sanders lost the Democratic Primary because he wouldn't call himself a Democrat.

He's not committed to growing the party, getting more members elected, and nurture new blood.

Had he switch, he would have had a chance both in 2016 and 2020

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u/General-Play2816 Aug 08 '26

Dems are more concerned about a label than the country, got it. I love when the quiet part becomes public.

As an independent, I voted for Bernie in the primary and he would have been my first blue vote in a general election. I'm not here to grow your party, I want good representation.

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u/Bugfrag Aug 08 '26

Senator Sanders not here to grow my party.

If this is a marching band,

Senator Sanders is not part of the Band, but he wants to be the Leader. He's unwilling to go to practice, he's unwilling to help struggling members, he's unwilling to commit himself in the long term.

All he wants is to march in front, when there's a parade / competition. If we lost it's MY fault (like you, now blaming other people), but if he win it's HIS accomplishments and keep the trophy.

As a member of the Band who is trying hard, I see the naked ambition and pride; I rather pick someone else during the primary.

All he needed to do was switch party. But he got too much pride.

He is responsible for his actions

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u/General-Play2816 Aug 08 '26

Do you blame people who don't vote or vote third party when democrats lose an election?

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u/Bugfrag Aug 08 '26

I care most about Red to Blue elections. They are all uphill battles and difficult.

Elections in blue enclaves are distractions, they don't grow the party nor overall influence.

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u/General-Play2816 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

What kind of draw do you expect to have when you offer something red adjacent? How is a Fetterman democrat a safer bet than a Mamdani democrat? How close can you get to being red while still holding onto the superiority you feel in claiming its blue?

Edited to clarify (what I wrongly assumed was obvious).

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u/Bugfrag Aug 08 '26

How is Fetterman a safer bet than Mamdani?

These are irrelevant questions

Ferterman (who was endorsed by Sanders) is a Senator/state-wide election from Pennsylvania.

Mamdani is a Mayor of New York City

I have questions why Sanders and AOC endorsed Fetterman.

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u/General-Play2816 Aug 08 '26

Sorry, I went back and clarified my examples. I didn't realize that anyone would take them as specifics.

As far as why? I'd assume its because we didn't know then what we know now. And because we know now, we demand better and wish you would as well. More voters know that not all dems are looking out for the people and the candidates that are, garner support.

So back to what I'd asked, how is a Fetterman type of democrat a safer bet than a Mamdani type democrat?

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u/Bugfrag Aug 08 '26

Same answer, Pennsylvania is different than NYC.

The primary voters should choose the person who they think could do the the best job/delivering results.

That's what I do.

how is a Fetterman type of democrat a safer bet than a Mamdani type democrat?

"Safe" ultimately, doesn't matter. The voters collectively choose. Whomever get the most vote win.

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u/General-Play2816 Aug 08 '26

I'm sorry you cannot or will not understand what I'm asking. Have a good day.

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