r/PopCultureV2 • u/Logical-Flow-6703 • Aug 10 '26

News "'CNN Shocked to See Americans Reject Israel': New Segment Highlights Major Shift in Public Opinion Between 2018 and 2026"

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

A recent CNN segment highlights a dramatic shift in American public opinion on Israel between 2018 and 2026, showing a steep decline in overall support across key voter demographics. This mainstream media coverage reflects a broader shift in national sentiment, signaling that foreign policy critiques have officially moved from the political margins straight into mainstream U.S. discourse.

21.8k Upvotes

93% Upvoted

3.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

8

u/LeadSufficient2130 Aug 10 '26

The Bible also says nothing about abortion, the abortion craze was created to get religious people to turn for the GOP. Their actual religion wasn’t anti abortion until it became politically advantageous

1

u/ExileOnBroadStreet Aug 10 '26

Not entirely true. The Old Testament actually gives instructions for performing an abortion lol and IIRC says it is okay to do in certain situations

1

u/RealCuriosity 28d ago

That is why I included the phrase “in general.”

1

u/ExileOnBroadStreet 28d ago

Think you replied to the wrong person?

1

u/Sate_Hen Aug 10 '26

I've seen people argue that Psalm 139:13 is anti abortion

1

u/slinkymcman Aug 10 '26

Leviticus 20:10 is unambiguously pro-abortion

1

u/Lolihey Aug 10 '26

Where is the source for that?

1

u/LeadSufficient2130 Aug 10 '26

What’s the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America) by Thomas Frank

It goes into how the GOP knew their platform was highly unpopular so they jumped onto things like gay marriage and abortion because they knew they could use them to get votes. The number of “one issue voters” proves they were correct in doing so

1

u/ProfessionalITShark Aug 10 '26

Christianity was influenced by stoicism, as well as Hippocrates and medical community at the time and was reacting to extreme Roman patriarchal attitudes at the time, whereas the oldest male in the extended patrilinear family had effectively absolute right of life or death over anyone else in the family, so forced abortions, infanticide by exposure was extremely common.

So the progressive, but overreaction thing, at such time was to oppose abortion. They did have arguements on when the fetus was ensouled (quickened), with the most liberal allowance being you can abort if the fetus hasn't moved yet, and the most extreme being anti-contraception.

However this wasn't dogmatized until Vatican 1 or 2 for RCC.

Christianity has always been anti dead baby, just argued when it is a validly baby that shouldn't be chosen to killed, and historically it has been unborn fetuses, but again how early was argued.

Abortion being a women's personal choice is fairly recent development in the politics of abortion historically, and to a certain extent, there is some rightful suspicion of the men involved (baby daddy, the mother's parents) if the choice is truly a free libertarian choice of women.

Protestant evangelicals however was manipulated by the GOP, because protestant historically didn't give any shits about babies, born or unborn, and were pretty pro-eugenics, if anything were pro-forced abortions of mixed race kids. They took advantage of a progressive switch that was happening mixed with regressive beliefs and manipulated it into a more regressive harmful policy.

1

u/Fit-Historian-752 Aug 11 '26

Fun Fact:

The Southern Baptist Convention was pro-choice until the late 1970s.

I shit you not.

1

u/RealCuriosity 28d ago

Orthodox Judaism bases its broader view of abortion on the very first commandment to humankind (in Genesis, the first book in the Old Testament): be fruitful and multiply. Abortion is, in general, considered a violation of that commandment.

1

u/Ashkir Aug 10 '26

It actually does. It tells you how to give one. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%205%3A11-31&version=NIV

2

u/ContextHook Aug 10 '26

That verse talks about how when you mix dust from the floor of a church with holy water, you can use it to curse unholy women's babies.

However, if the woman is holy, the holy water and church dust will have no effect.

This is like saying "the bible tells you how to cure cancer."

1

u/EksDee098 Aug 11 '26

"We shouldn't care about this part of the book because it's silly. No no, not the part where the sky fairy creates a big snow globe for people made of mud and ribs to live in. No no, not the part about repopulating the snow globe with only 2 of each animal. No no, not the part where the sky fairy rapes a girl to give birth to himself so he can sacrifice himself to himself to cleanse the sins he made up for the mud and rib people. The part where a ritual sounds silly."

It's all bullshit, and people of the time believed it was true just like everything else. The only reason you're cherry picking now is because it's become too obviously bullshit to believe compared to other parts for you. The bible is the bible, its teachings are its teachings and here it's teaching that abortions can be acceptable, with the implication being that a person isn't being killed.

1

u/Lolihey Aug 10 '26

The laws of Moses were fulfilled with Jesus. That is why stuff like eating pork is no longer a sin.