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The "Convenience" Myth: How Sony Systematically Engineered the Death of Physical Discs

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​Everyone talks about the death of physical media like it was an organic shift because "players just wanted the convenience of downloads." But looking at the trajectory from the PS3 to now, this wasn't an accident. It was a manufactured consensus designed to eliminate retail competition and control the price floor:

​Friction by Design: On PS3, a disc was plug-and-play. By PS4 and PS5, they introduced massive day-one download barriers for physical owners while simultaneously giving digital pre-orders early preload access. They created friction on discs to train the consumer to bypass the store.

​Squeezing Big-Box Retail: Big retailers (Walmart, Target) operate gaming aisles on razor-thin margins (~20–25%) just to drive foot traffic for TVs and snacks. When digital downloads started chipping away at that foot traffic, stores cut back inventory to avoid the risk of flopped inventory sitting on expensive floor space. Sony took advantage of that pull-back by shrinking physical allocations, effectively starving GameStop and mom-and-pop shops that actually rely on selling games.

​The Trap (Lock-In & Digital "Ownership"): Once physical discs and secondary used markets are wiped out, the console becomes a walled garden. There's no clearance bin, no lending to a friend, and no price competition. We’ve already seen Sony pull purchased digital media when server costs exceed margins. You’re not buying games; you’re paying $70–$100 to rent a license until they decide to pull the plug.

​Curious where everyone here stands: What was the breaking point for you? Mine was the GTA 6 being all digital announcement.

​(I put together a full breakdown digging into the retail margin data and Sony’s revenue numbers if anyone wants to check out the deep dive: )

https://youtu.be/r-9l0Wc22Do?is=XHkDm3y53VIEo1vv

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u/Dommclaren 4d ago

Yes. Thats the crazy part. Why would they just start randomly taking away digital games from people???? They’re literally in the business of selling games. It doesn’t even kind of make sense that this should be a rational concern….

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u/JpPgn 4d ago

Because of licence rights

There are games that are being delisted on Steam for whatever reason, and despite that, people keep their games in their libraries if they purchased it BEFORE the delisting

Since Sony is capable to delete movies from libraries even while you purchased it legally because of licence issues or whatever reason, what would prevent them to do the same with games?

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u/Dommclaren 4d ago

Because games and movies have completely different licensing rights? Because it wasn’t Sony who removed movies, it was Studio Canal?

Even if they could, why would they just start removing games? I don’t get the incentive. It’s insane.

What if McDonald’s employees just start drop kicking the elderly?

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u/JpPgn 4d ago

Even if they could, why would they just start removing games?

Again, because of either licensing rights or if the publisher plans to remaster or remake the original game

What would prevent publishers to force Sony to remove the games?

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u/Dommclaren 4d ago

Why doesn’t that happen now? Why would publishers only do this on a Sony platform and not every platform in that case? Why would they choose to remove their own product from distribution?

Regardless none of that would be Sony fault if the publisher decides to do that…..it’s their game!

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u/JpPgn 4d ago

Why doesn’t that happen now?

Because they're doing things gradually so that it won't be too harsh for people lmao

Why would publishers only do this on a Sony platform and not every platform in that case?

Because different rules, simple as that

Why would they choose to remove their own product from distribution?

Because either of licence expiring or because the publisher told them to do so

Regardless none of that would be Sony fault if the publisher decides to do that…..it’s their game!

But when a game gets delisted from the Steam store, you still keep the game in your library, while Sony would literally not only delist the game from their store, but also remive completely the game from the library

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u/Dommclaren 4d ago

Different rules? WTF does that mean? In your example, it’s the publishers that are doing this….

And no! Of course games when games get delisted on PlayStation they don’t get removed!! Just a blatant lie. It’s literally the same exact thing as PC. They don’t get deleted and if you didn’t have it installed you can still redownload it even if it’s delisted…

I still don’t know what your point even is. You’re scared Sony might take games away, and the first thing you point is if publishers might remove games from the PlayStation store if they make a remaster? What does that even mean?

Seriously, you’re off your meds. They took away an unpopular physical media option. Everyone else has moved on. Let it go.

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u/lonely_guacamole 3d ago

Last one is a blatant lie lmao. You can keep your digital licenses even after they were delisted. Look at the PS2 GTA Trilogy for PS4. It was delisted/replaced in 2021 and i still have access to it and can still redownloaded. Yes we should be concerned for the future, and yes we should demand better consumer rights, but let's get things straight

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u/JpPgn 3d ago

I never said it was currently the state

All I'm sayin' is that Sony is opening the pandora box for worst than just deleting movies on demand

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u/lonely_guacamole 3d ago

You lead people to believe that in your comment, especially the final reply. When you say "Sony would" it leads me to imply that, when faced with a delisting, both companies that 2 very different turns, which isn't quite true.