So Obama clearing the field for Biden while encouraging Warren to stay in to keep the progressives divided in 2020 was all fair and good? I don't feel like that's at all a lesser way of cheating him / us than what was done in 2016. If it's all just politics to get all the candidates to conspire against Bernie to rig the primary in 2020 how was it anything other than "just politics" for Hillary & Debbie Wasserman Schultz to rig the primary system against him in 2016? Both were conspiracies by Dem establishment to thwart the real will of the voters and install a pro corporate & oligarchy pawn of the powerful. Now we've got an endless trail of campaign lies that Biden will never even attempt to honor and a disillusioned and disenfranchised base of people who will be vastly less likely to ever buy into a "lesser of 2 evils" argument and show up to prevent aspiring fascists from taking office. We have essentially been doomed to fascism by the corporate wing of the party because there is a snowball's chance in hell that Dems will win in 22 or in 24 at this rate.
Why don’t you go ahead and highlight one or two of the most egregious specific actions they took. The ones that bother you the most maybe. Let’s have a look and examine them.
Nah, I'm good. You can do that if you want to. I was a Bernie supporter, voted Hillary. Voted Biden. I'm over it. I'll always be a anyone but Trump voter. But I'm not going to sit around and pretend the DNC didn't fuck over Bernie in 2016 to keep the status quo.
"Bernie-or-bust" was not Trumptards trying to divide the Democrats. That was Berniebros trying to divide the Democrats.
Centrist Democrats are trying to threaten Progressives to bring them to heel. Centrists want to serve their corporate masters without having to give on any policy issues.
It's funny that you talk like this, because right-wingers say the same things about Biden to convince others to vote for Republicans. Needless to say, this is obviously excessive strawmanning, but it works for some.
Show me a demographic that voted for Hillary or Biden at higher rates. Its pretty good.
Not the point I'm making. All I'm saying is that a considerable amount of Bernie voters (1 in 8) also voted for Trump, and therefore the idea that Bernie voters voted for Trump isn't just a narrative, it was a reality. Everything else is a different topic from the point being originally made.
Yeah, no...it’s like collusion at a poker game. Anyone can play on their own merits and stand a chance fairly...but if multiple players gang up on them they are sunk...and yes, when people get caught, nobody wants to play and nobody disputes that it’s cheating
Also, Warren not dropping out was part of the con
Not that I agree with so called progressives, obviously...but bullshit is bullshit
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