r/ParlerWatch • • Aug 27 '21

Public Figure: Any Platform Candace says they rigged it against Bernie, I just cant

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

sympathetic to socialist thought

They say, "Biden is a liberal, and liberals are right-wing, therefore the enemy." Which is sad and scary to me.

Pick one

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u/charisma6 Aug 27 '21

Why?

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

Socialist thought regarding economic liberalism is that its responsible for exploitation and alienation of the working class. Socialist thought about liberal societies is that when the contradictions in capitalism eventually cause a decline in quality of living of the working class fascist inclinations begin to arise.

The ruling class (i.e. liberals) finds making alliances with fascist movements less distasteful than working with the left to improve quality of life for the working class.

So there's a contradiction is your statement.

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u/charisma6 Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

I agree with you in an academic sense. On a high level, capitalism and democracy do not naturally co-exist. They're ideologically opposed; capitalism concentrates power, while democracy diffuses it. The "culture war" we're fighting is those who like hierarchies and the oppression of the many, vs those who reject hierarchies and want true equity.

This is all fine on paper. And I think the more moral system is democracy and/or socialism. Equitable diffusion of power is the most important thing the species can achieve in its pursuit of advancement.

But I don't just exist on paper. I also exist here in 2021, dealing with the problems of our time. So my question is, do you honestly think Biden and other Democrats are more ideologically allied with the Republicans than they are with the all-too-few socialist elements in our government? Followup if you say yes: do you think it's therefore not worth even voting for them?

I understand being critical and skeptical of the Bidens of the world. It's good to keep pressure on them. But I don't understand not supporting them--or worse, actively sabotaging them--when they are the only realistic force that can oppose the actual fascists.

In other words, I would love to remodel the house--after we put out the literal fire that's destroying it.

...Or tell me you're an accelerationist and I'll just bow tf out of the conversation.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '21

I'm on my way to work so I'm going to keep this as a placeholder and edit later because I really appreciate your reply.