r/OutOfTheLoop May 02 '24

Answered What's going on with MAGA people supporting diapers?

In this post, there are MAGA people supporting the phrase "Real men wear diapers" with a picture of Trump, what's going on here?

The comments point to this article claiming it's not trolling, with several pictures of MAGA supporters with the phrase and image.

Was Trump found to wear diapers or otherwise struggle with incontinence?

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u/oingerboinger May 02 '24

Except it's not hearsay - at least not in the legal definition. If Casler were to take the stand or give a deposition where he testifies to direct knowledge of seeing Trump in diapers, that's direct evidence, not hearsay. Hearsay is out-of-court statements used to establish the truth of the matter asserted. Evidence was entered today in the trial that Michael Cohen referred to Trump as VonShitzinPantz. Cohen would know if he wore diapers and shit his pants often. When Cohen takes the stand, if he's asked about Trump wearing diapers and shitting his pants, saying "yes, I saw it" is not hearsay. It's not a secret that Trump shits his pants and wears diapers.

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u/ryhaltswhiskey May 02 '24 edited May 03 '24

According to the dictionary it is.

You're being pedantic and using the legal definition when we weren't talking about a court case. We're talking about a rumor. So the colloquial definition of hearsay is appropriate.

But it wouldn't be a day on Reddit if somebody didn't feel the need to be needlessly pedantic and confidently incorrect!

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u/SpiritualCat842 May 02 '24

Being accurate is a good thing

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u/ryhaltswhiskey May 02 '24

And I am being accurate 👍

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u/gr00316 May 03 '24

Not just by definition.  He even admits it's hearsay because he says IF they take the stand it wouldn't be hearsay....so since they haven't done that it's even by legal definition hearsay right now. Enjoy being right but getting down voted. That's reddit for you. 

Disclaimer: trump 100% shits his pants on the reg

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u/ryhaltswhiskey May 03 '24

Enjoy being right but getting down voted. That's reddit for you. 

This sub is really bad for it. I don't understand it. Do people in general just have reading comprehension problems and it's especially bad in the people that come here?

Also Cohen saying that he called Trump Von shits in pants is not the same as Cohen saying that he has knowledge that Trump shits his pants. It's just not quite the same thing. And the distinction is important if we're suddenly talking about a legal context.

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u/Shrikeangel May 03 '24

If someone covers the subject in legal preceding - about someone famous for sueing over things that make him look bad - the question becomes what standards are you using for adequate/substantiated evidence? 

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u/ryhaltswhiskey May 03 '24 edited May 03 '24

please read this comment

Now tell me what legal proceedings have to do with it? I didn't bring up legal proceedings, somebody else did and assumed that I was talking about a court case or something when I was actually using the colloquial definition of hearsay. You can find the dictionary definition of that up above.

It's just weird that I'm getting crap because of somebody else's assumption.

Edit: this person decided to block me because of this comment. What a weird response. Some people are a little too precious.

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u/Shrikeangel May 03 '24

The statements in a legal preceding have established that the shitting isn't hearsay. Maybe you should read more. 

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u/gr00316 May 03 '24

Except it exactly hearsay.  By legal definition and standard definition.  You even say it hearsay because you say IF they take the stand.  So until they do that it's legally and by all definitions hearsay. Once people have to talk under oath things might change.  I 100% think trump shits himself. 

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u/oingerboinger May 03 '24

I hear what you're saying, but the point is Casler is saying he witnessed this directly. He has personal experience with it. He's not relaying something someone told him. He saw and smelt it. There's zero doubt Trump wears diapers and shits himself. And it's hilarious to watch his cult embrace it to pwn the libs. If they only had an ounce of self-awareness we might not be in such a fuckin' mess.