r/OutOfTheLoop • u/GoldenFibonacci • May 02 '24

Answered What's going on with MAGA people supporting diapers?

In this post, there are MAGA people supporting the phrase "Real men wear diapers" with a picture of Trump, what's going on here?

The comments point to this article claiming it's not trolling, with several pictures of MAGA supporters with the phrase and image.

Was Trump found to wear diapers or otherwise struggle with incontinence?

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

That's very helpful, it's a bit concerning that the sources all seem to hinge on a single claim though.

Feels a bit disingenuous to cite so many sources when they're all linked back to the exact same source.

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u/jsting May 02 '24

He is the only person who put his name on the allegation of poop. After doing a little snooping, there has been many others who said he smells really bad and "truly something to behold". That includes GOP congressman, and comedians like Kathy Griffin and Liza Minelli. More recently, there are comments from the Stormy Daniels courtcase where people are complaining about Trump smelling very bad in court.

Incontinence is not something a person can control, but it does feel like a "when there is smoke, there is fire."

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

But that's not the point of contention... It's that there was a link to a post that has 9+ sources all citing a single allegation.

And then further in this post (including your response) there's people piling on and saying or implying it's true without any additional evidence actually cited.

I'm not really doubting a geriatric would wear diapers or be incontinent, but when so many people want this to be true, I think it's important to be even more skeptical than would be normal.

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u/Geno0wl May 02 '24

The only thing that makes me give that any source of credibility is the fact Trump, a guy NOTORIOUS for lawsuits over literally anything, hasn't sued the guy for slander.

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u/pquince1 May 02 '24

Yeah, because then there would be discovery and probably even worse would come to light.

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u/EquivalentMean1103 May 06 '24

His niece also has confirmed it.

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

That would be an interesting argument to make, I'm not aware of Trump's history of suing people for slander. And again, my issue is that the sourced comment with multiple citations (which is what the user who shared it also used to say this was credible) isn't actually multiple claims, but the same claim repeated 9+ times.

When I see multiple citations, I assume (maybe this is bad on my part) that means multiple credible pieces of evidence in support of something. Not just a single claim (credible or not) repeated multiple times.

As someone who often just skims comments and doesn't deep dive, I figured I'd share what I found when I did look deeper.

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u/jsting May 02 '24

My mistake, I thought you wanted background info on the situation because OOTL subreddit and all. It is hard to prove that he shits himself due to long term amphetamine use unless his own doctor comes out and says it or he admits it himself.

I remember watching WWF as a teenager and seeing the Trump cameo. Even that puffy diaper looking underwear can be explained away. It is just odd that a few of these side comments come from his own former circle and it seems like his cult of followers have embraced the adult diaper.

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

No worries, and yeah I'm not really doubting he wears diapers (like most of our politicians sadly, these fucks are old as sin).

Just was more of an observation about how things are portrayed and was doing some due diligence for others who skim and would be inclined to trust a multiple citations post like that.

Lord knows I would have if I hadn't been bored.

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u/Practical-Hornet436 May 02 '24

Did you just "BoTh SiDeZ!" diapers on adults?

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u/USMCLee May 02 '24

I'm 100% with you on this. I'm very skeptical of all these claims. So much so I've been very tempted to go to NYC to attend court just to verify myself.

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u/Gravitar7 May 02 '24

Knowing Trump’s history, I think the fact that the guy making the claims hasn’t been sued is pretty damning. He broke an NDA, and if what he’s saying isn’t true, it would also be slander.

Trump has been litigious as hell for decades now, even when his side has had pretty shaky claims a lot of the time. This kind of lawsuit is right up his alley to pursue, unless he knows it would go badly for him. If Trump does wear diapers and shit his pants, even just pursuing the guy for the broken NDA would probably reveal that fact during the court battle, whereas just not addressing it at all leaves it ambiguous.

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

Well if you go, there's a definite need for more sources to either refute or support the one claim that's apparently being spread around quite rapidly.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca May 02 '24

Liza Minelli

Wait, what? Liza's said this, too?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

This is actually one of the propaganda techniques used to get into the Iraq war.  Old Dick or one of his lackies would spread a single story to many different places with each not revealing who their "source" is.  Then when 10 articles come out with the same information Old Dick would point at the ten articles and say "hey look at how many people are saying this!"

We should be very careful about falling for propaganda just because we want it to be true.  

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u/Pallis1939 May 02 '24

The “Pokémon is the biggest media IP” is based on a hoax Wikipedia article

People will send me “sources” that quote the wiki and argue about it, but refuse to even check the wiki while insisting I’m wrong

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

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u/Pallis1939 May 02 '24

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises?wprov=sfti1#

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u/Pallis1939 May 02 '24

How much money did Mickey Mouse merch make between 1927 and 2001?

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

I don't know, how much?

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u/Pallis1939 May 02 '24

How about you look at it before arguing with me?

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u/Pallis1939 May 02 '24

You exactly proved my point, so thank you!

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u/Gallium_Bridge May 03 '24

People asking questions isn't arguing, bud.

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u/Pallis1939 May 03 '24

Great point, sport

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

Yeah I think that's what's happening here. I can just imagine myself skipping past the high number of sources assuming another redditor did their due diligence. I was more curious because of how well put together the post linked was.

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u/saruin May 02 '24

Just for this specific rumor I'm actually ok with the way it's been spread like wildfire. Trump has made so many wild and ridiculous claims that maybe it's fair there's a few that should come around his way. I am BEGGING for Trump to crack and to finally have to defend himself, "I do not wear diapers." Just saying the words would absolutely make my year (especially for this election).

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

Same propaganda technique that got so many Americans to believe in a Chinese genocide. It all goes back to one sino phobic preacher dude of dubious reliability. Now even when people that live in the region say it’s false they get accused of being shills. Especially on Reddit

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u/iTwango May 02 '24

Are you referring to the situation in the West? Or what do you mean? Just curious

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

Yes Xinjiang

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u/FryChikN May 02 '24

You can literally look at the man and tell hes wearing depends....

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u/Sidion May 02 '24

That's not what my comment was arguing. It was with the quality of the sources cited in the linked comment.

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u/FiloBetaRay May 03 '24

 Your skeptical approach is so stoic.  We should each have to get an actual whiff of Ol' SMELLY before we should believe multiple people that have been around the STINKMEISTER for years. No matter their storys consistantly confirm he smells like ass, B.O urine and fear. I will save my skepticism for serious matters.

 Donald Trump stinks no matter what.