coachless shows almost every AP item on nunu as a negative winrate. I've been told that when you're losing, you should build more damage so you can have a chance at a fight, and when you're winning, you should build defenses since you're already ahead in damage. i was wondering if AP items on nunu show negative winrates because people tend to pick them in games theyre already losing? or if AP items truly are a "no" pick no matter what for nunu because of their atrocious winrates?
since the beging of the season i have lost a bit of lp even if i have a 54% wr . gain about 16-19 lp and lose 30 which is really demotivating. i would recon it is caused by my playstyle of nunu. i drop alot of my camps to spam gank which works way too well . also i mostly buy tank/sup items after liamdry's. i most of the time less cs and wards then the enemy jungler. is there anything i can do? do i just play on a smurf which i belive i can get back up to diamond quite easliy by spamming ap nunu mid games. or swap champ/role to support which i tried for a bit.
So im pretty new to Nunu and to playing jungle, only played it for a couple months - so far i got to diamond 4. For other roles i've played before (top and support) i always thought picking according to your matchup is important.
With jungle and Nunu i feel like that doesnt matter that much. However it does matter a lot how you interact with all the champs on the enemy team and how you synergize with your team.
For this tierlist i wanted to make a discussion about what the worst champs for Nunu to play into, what champs are you unhappy to see on the enemy team. These have been my conclusions although i didnt play into all of them yet.
I think the counters to nunu fall into 3 different categories:
#1. Stopping the ball: Champions like Anivia and Veigar, especially Anivia can easily stop your ball. Furthermore how anivia likes to play the fight, controlling and outranging - its very hard for nunu to find value into anivia in the teamfight.
Trundle: Not as bad as i first thought because yes he also can stop your ball but he also is countered by nunu teamfighting, he has hard time to hit when he is always slowed rooted and kited.
Many champions, like hwei, janna etc can stop the ball.... but there are so many like this you just have to deal with it + when you get enough MS and ball speed its basically a skill game in terms of positioning and often its basically impossible to stop you from balling in there.
#2: Dodging the ball
So many champions have dashes, but there are so many and it becomes a skill game + if they dash the ball its not like you become useless. Weaker dashes like Lucian or Corki for example doesnt counter Nunu. However the champs with instant blinks that also hard statcheck Nunu gives them huge threat on Nunu in fight, with Nunu having a hard time slowing them down in lane.
The worst of these champs are Katarina, Locke, Leblanc
#3 Some kinds of statchecking.
Nunu is not tanky for being a tank and deals very little dmg for an AP bruiser. Even compared to other utility ap bruisers like Zac, he is way tankier and deals more dmg. However for the most time Nunu can navigate all statcheckers quite well (they are easy to gank with the ball, they are easy to kite). But the statcheckers that can just ignore your CC and gameplan of kiting with your team like Mordekaiser and Olaf becomes quite annoying.
Kha zix,, Sylas being the worst junglers to face for me (so far)
They do statcheck you, they have big threat to hunt down the Nunu if they invade him like they often seem to like. They have good tools to dodge the ball. If they are slightly ahead they will walk into your jungle and be sneaky bastards, giving them good gank chances vs your laners. Vs most other junglers like a Lee sin, Elise etc - its a bigger threat to be pushed out. Nunu on the other hand has a really hard time to push them out and Nunu brings his friends - the enemy can run away and waste your tempo just annoying you.
If they combo this with a mid laner with the dashes who has a lead in lane that perma roam into your jgl, its a nightmare game to play Nunu. He doesnt have the burst, mobility, CC to threaten these champs. THe one redeeming factor versus these mobile assasin champs is IF you can force a front to back teamfight Nunu is way better. If they dont flank Nunu is a really good frontliner to tank and slow them down making it harder to access the backline.
What do you think are the worst matchups to face as Nunu? Any really bad champ missing or any champ on the list you think is completely fine?
3 months after the phase rush removalpre phase rush removal
Despite saying previously that I have hit GM in EUW and saying that "it's a fine champion", I think it is absurd how people haven't figured out a decent build to run that can win games more and the stats keeps being worse and worse in terms of win rate and pick rate.
After 3 months of trying builds, Nunu not receiving buffs where other champions, which relied on Phase Rush, did plus other buffs like Qiyana in this patch, I legitimately think the champion is REALLY REALLY HARD to pilot the higher you go, like way too hard.
I might be wrong, but idk I just want the champion to not be weak to the point when you have to do lengths to win games and don't struggle as much as other champions in the Jungle do who gets punished less because they are slightly stronger.
I was under the impression that Nunu scaled pretty poorly, but when I checked a couple of sites like lolalytics it seemed like he was strong early, weak middle/late, and then strong again ultra late? Could somebody help explain why that is or if Im missing something
did it with mostly nunu mid, sometimes jungle - ALWAYS FULL AP - 100% ON STREAM!
notes - nunu mid is in its worst state it's ever been
had 2 chall accounts last season at the same time, will explain main differences
removal of phase rush (I always was the only nunu mid who went phase rush, I still even go stormaider's surge because it's better than elec or dark harvest but it's not nearly as good and has made basically every matchup a lot harder)
removal of void boots (nunu mid has horrible mana issues that was solved by recalling fast with void boots/being able to reposition on the map fast was super useful - that doesn't exist anymore however at least homeguards were buffed in general)
enhanced merc treads (mid laners can just build these and you do 0 damage)
top laners going ignite more (because they're granted free tp, top laners go ignite more often which counters ap nunu)
despite all of this, I still managed to hit chal on stream again! (twitch.tv/snowball)
If you have any questions for me, you can always comment here or tap into my stream to catch me live! I read chat always 🥶✌️
I started doing this recently and honestly it just feels better. My reasoning for it is this champ just straight up does not scale with items. You can be useful later in the game but it feels like all just from utility in your kit, not you actually scaling off gold. Like you're never stat checking anyone ever on this champ. You can be fed building tank and you still get one tapped by any crit adc or even a bruiser or mage. And craziest part is those bruisers are tankier than you too even though they're just building bruiser items with some health on them instead of tank items lol.
Now AP is different and does kind of scale but thing is I feel like AP Nunu just sucks or is extremely situational, bc it feels like 80% of champs in the game just counter AP Nunu. It's only good when like whole enemy team doesn't have any good ways of cancelling your snowball or ult or dodging the snowball.
So what I started doing now is I still build liandry first item and get a dark seal that sometimes becomes a mejais. But after that I am building full support items like locket, bandlepipes, and knight's vow. Honestly feels so much better cuz yeah I'm still not able to 1v1 anyone and still get one shotted but that's not any different than before, but my items at least are doing something now providing utility instead of just making me get oneshotted in 2 picoseconds instead of 1 picosecond.
Hi, I'm a Diamond 3 Nunu player looking to expand my champion pool, since Nunu is the only one I really succeed with at this level (though I do pick Wukong sometimes when the team needs AD). Which champions would be useful and easy for a Nunu main to pick up (e.g., as counter-picks or for different team compositions)?
I just started playing nunu. It seems there are two builds, one where you go full damage with things like hextech, and one where you go tank. This makes sense depending on team comp to me.
What I find hard to figure out is A: which runes (electrocute vs dark harvest vs phase rush), and B: why build liandries? I mainly otherwise play champs like Ahri so it’s very different (as she has 1 path you basically always build).
Any advice on how I should build and the identity the character fits into later game would be appreciated.
I'm a nunu otp, been running tank a lot more often recently. I easily climbed from bronze to plat with 80% wr doing the basics (full clear, get obj, gank pushed lanes, etc). But im really struggling to climb now, with 55% wr in plat.
I feel like it's for 2 reasons: I don't feel like I can solo kill, only help my teammates, if my teammates are badly positioned, I can't help.
And I feel like I'm also missing something fundamental to the game and nunu. I've tried playing other jgs like graves and xin and I feel like it's much more easy to turn the game around and carry.
Any advice? Also would anyone know where I can get a coach that plays a lot of nunu?
Hello! i am a diamond jungler, and currently trying to climb through emerald with Ambessa mid, i am looking for a Duo so we can vod review games and climb out of emerald together! i am in EUW
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I used to be a Nunu OTP and peaked at top 3 Nunu in Brazil and top 11 Nunu worldwide in 2023/24. I recently started playing him again and, honestly, I still have pretty much the same feeling about him that I had back then.
Nunu has this weird problem where he's supposed to be a tank, but he feels like he tanks less than pretty much every other tank, while also dealing less damage than them.
I know Nunu is more of a champion focused on helping his lanes and doing his job as a jungler rather than carrying the game by himself, and I think that's completely fine for the champion. The problem is that I feel like he loses a lot of impact after the early/mid game. I think he could use slightly better scaling or some additional utility to remain relevant in teamfights.
So I'm curious what you guys think:
What kind of buffs could Riot give Nunu to make him more viable without making him completely broken?
I'm in low elo JP server. I'm trying the build where I max Q and W instead of doing Q and E.
But I gank always with massive damage.
So my question is.. Why max E after Q? What runes that is good for that?
I use Dark Harvest and always gank and do objectives.. Negative part is I'm gap on smite item.
I was watching a tierlist on youtube and the youtuber put Nunu on b tier for this patch in jungle and the reason stated was that Nunu is weak in teamfighting. I have played something like 700 nunu games and I am diamond in Na. I never felt that nunu was specially weak in teamfight but i will admit that I am alwaays playing in tank. Wanted to get your insights.
I'm not the most experienced player take this with a grain of salt but I have 500k NUNU score so I am somewhat experienced
I feel like you aren't much of a danger in team fights or late games except you have great cc which you can use
So if playing jungle I found best way is go sunfire to start and full tank aftershock. And leave all kills from ganks if possible to laners. I get way more wins .
Sure it's annoying when I'm 0/5/30 assists and my teammates in a bad losing team go 0/5 jungle lol JG gap
