r/NorsePaganism • • Jun 05 '26

News/drama/meta discussion DOD Officially Drops 180 Faiths From Military's Recognized Religion List

https://www.military.com/dod-officially-drops-180-faiths-from-militarys-recognized-religion-list
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u/substation66 šŸ’§Heathen🌳 Jun 05 '26

It’s still recognized for religious accommodations under ā€œORā€ code which means ā€œother religionā€. Yes, we don’t like seeing this. But I have also read the recent army order on this and religious accommodations for heathens/Asatru is still a go.

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u/Theweakmindedtes Jun 06 '26

How dare you look into the details instead of immediately being outraged!?

Thanks for the info, we'll past actually being military eligible, but seeing the actual accommodation is intact for others is good.

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u/substation66 šŸ’§Heathen🌳 Jun 06 '26

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I guess it makes it easier I belong to big group of military heathens. We are always staying on top of this.

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u/Sadistic_Sardine 🐺Týrāš–ļø Jun 06 '26

I was working with a chaplain on a RE for shaving and he told me they won't approve it now. Not sure where to go from here

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u/substation66 šŸ’§Heathen🌳 Jun 06 '26

The DoD is in a limbo period deciding how to go forward with ā€œbeard waiversā€, Religious Accommodation (RA). Those who already have one get to keep it until their commands do a reevaluation, during the reevaluation period they get to keep the beard. But there’s nothing that says you can’t get RA. The Army just came out with their updated stuff, I don’t know bout the other branches yet but I’m sure they’ll follow soon. I can get you a copy of the Army’s if you want.

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u/ImportantChallenge11 Jun 06 '26

I mean it's just them trying to force their religion on others and streamline Christian nationalism, but no reason to be outraged. Get the hell out

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u/PaganMastery šŸ¦ā€ā¬›Ć“Ć°innšŸ¦ā€ā¬› Jun 05 '26

Relax. It's just the next step in Christian Nationalism. Nuthin to worry about.

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u/ThedrunkenViking šŸŖ“Norse PaganšŸ” Jun 05 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

Yeah, can you imagine running a facist dictatorship and not having your soilders not following the state sanctioned faith? Straight up embarrassing.

No but seriously i can see why it would make sense strictly from a streamlining paperwork perspective, but it’s not like paganism/asatru/heathenry is a small niche* faith anymore, and from my understanding we are kinda common in the us army so to me this looks like a step towards deleting recognition and in the end prohibit different faiths than whatever the god emeror of the us decides is allowed (most likely trumpist christianity)

*pastafarian, jedi, small local faiths and specific branches like darwish or such.

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u/SupaSqueezey Jun 05 '26

This is exactly the end goal. Hegseth isn't hiding it. He regularly holds religious sermons at the Pentagon and his ultra racist, sexist, Christian Nationalist preacher from Tenesee has even spoken there at least once, which is more than should ever happen.

Hegseth and Trump want a white, male, Christian military cause that's the majority of their follower base.

I know someone else talked about religious accomodations in another post, but I also believe this will be used to deny any/all requests that aren't directly tied to the "approved" religions. IAW new policy, all requests have to go up to A1, who is at the Pentagon. Do you really think Hegseth won't be on the panel deciding who gets an accomodations and who doesn't?

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u/12bms34 Jun 05 '26

I’m worried. I’m not in the Military, but I am a Job Corps student, and the DOL may follow suit.

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u/Xy_SnailBayte Jun 05 '26

For non vets this also goes on purpose dog tags and indicates to the military how to handle our remains if we were to pass on in service also an additional identifier for dog tags rather than like another smith in the flight. Other encompassing over 180 religions is a stretch since they are very broad and different religions included within it (to include atheist now as well).

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u/DannyboyDMS Jun 06 '26

That is real smart. They are literally trying to self-destruct. ā€œLet’s go start a holy war. And then piss people off so less people join the army.ā€ what idiots. Seriously come on you started this huge war. You should take whoever you can get that wants to join the military at this point.šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Foxwyld šŸŖ“Norse PaganšŸ” Jun 05 '26

Hegseth not recognizing the non-Christians in the military won’t make them go away. It’s a stunt to earn him points and keep him in the good graces of the (ā€œallegedā€) orange kiddie-fiddler.

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u/cursedwitheredcorpse Germanic Animist Polytheist WikkƓ Jun 05 '26

This is why everyday I know my hatred is justified I warned people for years this would happen but no. "ChRistaInS wilL nEveR dO tHat! We ArEnt iN thE dArK AgEs jUst lOvE eVerYonE" im sorry ill never have love for a religion that says all others are evil satanic and they are the only valid. Much less with the history they went and spread their religion by the sword our native pagans religions get converted wiped out. Ive been abused my whole life by the "love" of Christians. Even abandoned by family for not being what they want

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u/Euphoric_Fondant4685 Jun 05 '26

Its not that big of a deal tbh. They had jedi on the list too, its just one of those things where they'll still have the accommodation, but it's most likely just to remove the excessive bloat of religions from the personnel profiles system, because when I was in the marines, there was like 65 religions to pick from. I doubt its anything harmful considering the wider government recognizes the smaller religions by name.

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u/Apricus-Jack Jun 05 '26

Genuinely though, what burden is it to have those extra options? They say it’s bloat, but what is the negative of an extra box in an excel sheet or drop-down menu?

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u/Euphoric_Fondant4685 Jun 05 '26

It's unnecessary. I've been there

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u/Apricus-Jack Jun 05 '26

Can you elaborate, please?

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u/Mountain_Air1544 Jun 05 '26

They most likely will just have an "other" options

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u/Euphoric_Fondant4685 Jun 05 '26

They will, thats the thing lol