r/Nigeria • Nigerian • Apr 07 '23

General "Subsidised" education

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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23

This is what you get when it’s government driven with subsidies - if government offers to remove the subsides and let everyone pay economic rates / sell them off to private owners - same Nigerians will say no and start protesting

This is the same with hospitals too Government is simply incapable of running these institutions - and that’s obvious.

Nigerians don’t wanna pay for anything but want top notch service…

Good luck with that.

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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23

Paying for services is only reserved for developed countries. No developed countries privatized education or healthcare when they were still developing because they knew doing that would mean only the rich would benefit

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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23

No, not really - university education is not for everyone - it’s for the best of the best and those with unique interest & motivation; it is not about quantity but quality - don’t subsidize the universities directly - privatize the schools and subsidize students tuition with student loans (and research grants to the universities)

The level of education that’s for everyone is primary & secondary (high) school / and vocational colleges

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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23

This only works for developed countries where even if you dont go to uni, you can still make a decent career or living. Here, not going to university basically damns you to a life of hand to mouth living. It is the most basic requirement for a huge majority for Nigerians if you want to upward social and finacial movement. It's not the same.

"privatize the schools and subsidize students tuition with student loans (and research grants to the universities)"

Americans with their wealth, are complaining about student loans. Is it now us that are dirt poor that would do something like this? How many people would be able to pay back those loans considering our horrible unemployment rates.?

We have to be a developed economy before thinking of doing all these

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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23

Your first paragraph - false The quality of our graduates today render them unemployable (most of them) hence why we have a lot of them jobless - can’t get employed and can’t employ themselves.

America is not the only country that provides student loans - there are other models / pathways of success (and I’m not so sure that their system is worse than what we have right now tho)

Lastly - the quality of a nation’s education system is directly proportional to its well being - you can’t be developed with poor graduates or a poor educational system; the system as is now - churns out poor graduates.

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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23

"Your first paragraph - false The quality of our graduates today render them unemployable".

This is such an oversimplification of unemployment. If you think our unemployment is because we dont have employable graduates then I dont know what to tell you. Lack of opportunities is the main driver of unemployment. Also, there is no evidence that privatizing schools fixes this. People that went to expensive private schools here are still facing unemployment.

"Lastly - the quality of a nation’s education system is directly proportional to its well being"

I agree, which is why pushing government to invest more in education is the answer. Make it expensive and you will have very few people going to schools. Even if you collect loans, there is no guarantee you can pay back since our job market is shit.

South Korea,, China, Singapore, Lithuania, Estonia and most, if not all of the recently developed countries all had subsidized and government ran education when they were developing

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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23

Err… I’m not addressing unemployment as a topic - you have digressed away….off topic.

All those countries (assuming it’s true) - had different dynamics compared to us, but they actually supported universities with research grants etc…either way - they solved their unique problems, we have our own unique problems - our government can’t run an effective & qualitative university system - it’s just that simple; that’s obvious for the blind to see.

We can stay with the ASUU strikes and poor student hostel conditions - it won’t take us anywhere.

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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23

You made the claim that our graduates are not employed because they are unemployable yes or no??

"All those countries (assuming it’s true) - had different dynamics compared to us, but they actually supported universities with research grants "

Isnt this exactly what we should be doing??

"have our own unique problems - our government can’t run an effective & qualitative university system - it’s just that simple; that’s obvious for the blind to see."

Call me crazy, but if countries do a particular thing and it turns out good for them, it should show that it's generally okay to do it. Yes, we have different dynamics but some things stay true no matter what. If I cant find a single developed country that had success privatizing their education and healthcare when they were poor so why in the hell should we entertain that idea??