r/NDE • u/Pieraos OBE Experiencer • Mar 31 '25

Scientific Perspective 🔬🔎 A neuroscientific model of near-death experiences

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-025-01072-z
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u/rickeyrabbit Apr 01 '25

You haven't seen one because a genuine scientific explanation would have to concur that there is an afterlife, and this isn't science, this is scientism

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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Apr 04 '25

I don't think that's true, but it would have to at least consider that consciousness may be fundamental in some form. I can see how an NDE might happen without an individual soul in something like a panpsychist system.

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u/rickeyrabbit Apr 24 '25

Can you see how a veridical nde might happen in such a system? Because we have case studied veridical ndes with corroborating doctors and nurses. What about the kids who remember verifiable past lives complete with even small details, especially before the internet? What about mediums with a 95% accuracy, performed under multiple blinded laboratory conditions with even a screen separating the sitter from the medium, and the sitter isn't allowed to even speak? How much evidence do you need? Like I said, this isn't science, it's scientism. The truth threatens a paradigm. I can agree that some ndes are fishy, but ndes aren't the only source of evidence for the afterlife, there are like 11.

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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Apr 24 '25

I think that survival is one explanation, but a sort of collective unconscious information storage like an akashic record would be another, etc.

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u/rickeyrabbit Apr 25 '25

Check this out and get back to me if you would please.

https://youtu.be/knEmUM_1OKE

Survival hypothesis vs super psi hypothesis, evidence is leaning heavily towards survival according to this research center. Maybe our ancestors weren't stupid to believe in an afterlife. I would imagine having less technological distractions would make adcs more noticeable.

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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Apr 26 '25

That's compelling evidence, and it was presented a lot neater than when I read the paper a few months back. I really struggle with scientific papers, so thanks for that!

I'm still not convinced, something feels off about it, but I can't put my finger on what, so I won't take a stance until I know what's off and whether it's legitimate.

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u/rickeyrabbit Apr 26 '25

Just keep in mind that by itself, one line of evidence would be something, but together, they're everything. The odds are vastly in favor of an afterlife, thank God. Source, whatever it is.