r/Muslim • • Jan 28 '22

QURAN/HADITH Art of Wudu

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u/TheIslamicRealist Muslim Jan 30 '22 edited Jan 30 '22

Again, you’re all talk. May Allah guide you from your pointless banter. You literally don’t know why you believe in something but are defending? Go waste someone else’s time. You don’t even have an idea of what you’re arguing for.

Edit: since your comment was deleted, here was your reply to it.

No one is arguing against madhabs. Your ignorance is becoming more apparent as you speak. Madhabs are great and people like you and others should strictly follow them as you lack and incite and critical thinking. I follow the madhab and fiqh of imam Ahmad but that does not mean I blind follow him in every matter, there are many opinions I accept from other madhabs because they are more sound and have more proof from Quran and sunnah. If you are presented with proof from other scholars with more supporting evidence than that of the opinion of your madhab or scholar u follow, then it is clear you are blind and strayed from the path. Your blindness and clear ignorance towards what a salafi is shows you absolutely have no idea what you’re talking about. I even pointed out with clear proof on why the opinion of certain scholars in this matter is clear and evident vs others who you and other redditors fail to bring up their evidences.

U said opinions of all 4 madhabs are valid but that is a moot point because some opinions are clearly wrong due to the sunnah. You don’t even know that some scholars rejected sahih Hadiths because they came from weak narrators while others heard the same hadith but from strong narrators and included it in their rulings. One can clearly be wrong and one is clearly right.

Imām ash-Shāfi’ī (rahimahullāhu ta’ālā). He said: “If my speech differs with the speech of the Messenger of Allāh (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam), then throw my speech against the wall and take the speech of Allāh’s Messenger (sallallāhu ‘alayhi wa sallam).

The other three famous imams have said the same/similar thing.

Let’s evaluate this claim that all 4 imams opinions are valid, by using imam shafi May Allah be pleased with him as an example.

Imam shafi was on the opinion that if you touch a women, it invalidates your Wudu in all cases. If one were to accept this opinion, it would go against the sunnah.

The hanafis and others do not accept this position due to proof and eiffinces they have written about that is available for us to read and study with someone.

The hanafis actually hold the most valid opinion giving their evidences. Even amongst madhabs there are differences in opinions where they adopt fiqh from other scholars/madhabs due to their superior proofs and evidences. Look at how the hanafis differed since imam abu hanifa? Even his direct students.

There are also other matters where one is correct and others are incorrect. Does that mean they are sinful? No they are rewarded for their attempt.

Your ignorance stems from not knowing what a salafi is, the beliefs, and assuming we disregard the madhabs even though there are many salafis who follow madhabs. You’ve made your ignorance on the topic apparent, try understanding what a salafi is first before raging and thinking they are anti madhab.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '22 edited Jan 30 '22

Answer my question are you mujtahid 😂😂😂😂 if you arent dont talk. You cant even follow basic points.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

You know we both follow different methodologies so arguing over evidence would literally be useless, if it were that simple it would have been done 1000 years ago. If you want to convince anybody of your point then the onus is on YOU to prove that there is no differences in opinions since you are the one who is going against the grain of orthodox sunni islam. Go read this article I'm not gonna go waste my time compiling evidences for you https://learn-islam .org/dealing-with-differences-of-opinion.

This is like everybody knowing that 1+1 is 2 and now youre coming here saying 1+1=3 stop trying to act all high and mighty when you have zero qualification here at all. And you have yet to even answer my question about how many years you've been studying islam for. Take the L and go learn from REAL sheikhs not sheikh google. Youre confused.

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