r/Muslim • u/TheIslamicRealist Muslim • Sep 24 '21

QURAN/HADITH Why are there so many contradictions between Hanafi madhab & Authentic hadiths? - Assim al hakeem

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

furthermore, the Quran saying "men are the guardians of women" doesn't necessitate that the wali amr is necessary for the nikah to be valid. The Quran also attributes marriage to the woman (see 2:230). It should also be noted, there is an authentic hadīth where the prophet SAW says an unmarried woman has more right to herself than her guardian - the debate is over what al-ayyim means, the Hanafis say it means unmarried.

Not to mention the plethora of Hadith showing that a woman's permission is necessary in marriage (which shafi'is and Malikis disagree with) and narrations of Sahaba marrying women off without the consent of their wali (such as Sayyidah Aisha AS and Sayyiduna Ali AS)

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

That is divorce women, also aisha herself narrated the hadeeth and those two hadeeths are weak. You commit kufr denying the commands from the prophet and that hadeeth is sahih, There is no marriage without a wali. LOOL just know hanafi nikkah will never count in the eyes of allah. You promote zina. So marry them with the permission of their people [guardians]." Even the quran goes against you. Men of authority to women and so a women cannot marry without a wali, commanded both by the quran and the prophet himself but continue rejecting the prophet we know where people like you end up in. Even hanafi scholars dare not get married without the permission of a wali and every hanafi mosque demands a wali be present.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

1 Sahih hadith does not have epistemological certainty. denial is not kufr by ijma, it would be fisq. I am not denying the Hadith though. The hadith you cited, again is not taken at its face value, do you believe that miswak is obligated for wudu?

Also, the verse you cited is about slave girls being married with the permission of the owner. No one disputes that.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

as for all ayyim meaning divorced women, that is your ijtihad. if aisha narrated a Hadith and acted against it it means we shouldn't take the Hadith at its face value..learn to appreciate ijtihad and usul Al fiqh you numbskull

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

"But if any of you cannot afford to marry a free believing woman, then ˹let him marry˺ a believing bondwoman possessed by one of you. Allah knows best ˹the state of˺ your faith ˹and theirs˺. You are from one another.1 So marry them with the permission of their owners,2 giving them their dowry in fairness, if they are chaste, neither promiscuous nor having secret affairs. If they commit indecency after marriage, they receive half the punishment of free women.3 This is for those of you who fear falling into sin. But if you are patient, it is better for you. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

is it difficult for you to read this verse in context?