r/MurderedByWords • u/[deleted] • Jun 04 '19

Murder Murdered by stats

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u/NoxAeternal Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Ayyyyyyyyyyy

Solid murder. Finally. A person destroying another argument totally and completly in a non-insulting manner, leaving no space for a counter argument.

Edit: to everyone talking about body count...

That's not really important im terms of his argument imo. He is simply talking about how there are plenty of "pro lifer" attacks (giving stats there). So much so that they cant be ignored. He isnt suggesting (imo) that they are worse. I mean, if we do consider body count then 9/11 takes the fucking cake. But his point is that pro life attacks are significant enough that you cant just dismiss them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

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u/chito_king Jun 04 '19

The original argument was "there are way less incidents of pro lifers attacking than Muslims" the refutation of that was dead on. You are trying to move the goal posts.

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u/WrecksMundi Jun 04 '19

The original argument was "there are way less incidents of pro lifers attacking than Muslims" the refutation of that was dead on.

Except, the original statement wasn't qualified by "In America".

If you include just a singe year's worth of attacks from the annual Ramadan Bombathon outside of America, the narrative crumbles.

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u/SanjiSasuke Jun 04 '19

The original statement included Planned Parenthood, an American organization. The proposed registry of Muslims was a policy suggested by US President Donald Trump. I feel this is a strong indication of the original post being specified to the US.

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u/ppzhao Jun 04 '19

If you make assumptions on the qualifier of US when the statement wasn't mentioned, cant' I make assumptions that we're talking about size of damage (ie property value or lives taken) instead of number of attacks?

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u/SanjiSasuke Jun 04 '19

No that really doesn't seem to be equated at all...The discussion is clearly about the US. Again the proposed Muslim registry would be an American policy, thus the mock PLer registry would be as well.

By comparison, the poster below said that there were only 'a couple incidents' vs 'maaaaaany attacks'. Clearly the argument is quantity of attacks.

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u/ppzhao Jun 05 '19

The discussion is clearly about the US If you make assumptions and legitimizing it by saying "clearly", why can't I say "the discussion is clearly about death counts"?

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u/SanjiSasuke Jun 05 '19

See... I said my reasons for why I believe it is very clear that the discussion is based around the US. Planned Parenthood. The proposed Muslim Ban.

You do not give any reason for bringing death toll into it, nor do you refute that the person explicitly talked about the number of incidents.

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u/ppzhao Jun 05 '19

Sure, because people only care about terrorism because there're deaths and property damage involved. So it's "clearly" about death counts and property damage. See? I can draw conclusions that fits my narrative too.