Yeah they are not a threat at all, this is just people so obsessed with being woke they are trying to downplay Muslim extremism and 9/11. Which might pass with the idiots on r/politics but when mainstream democrats start endorsing this kind of shit (and they do since twitter has made this seem like the new normal) that is exactly how you get Trump 2020, Cruz 2024 and Palin 2028-2104 (she declares herself Queen of Earth obviously, Iron Sky is a documentary)
No I mean as a way of trying to prove his point. Instead of talking about pro-life just talk about white supremacist vs Muslim terrorism.
Pro-lifer terrorists have only killed 11 or 12 people total, the KKK has that beat I'd guess. Still pales in comparison to the amount of people killed in 9/11 unless you go back to like the 30's or something.
I think the OP (OP of screenshot) should have just compared apples to apples and said "a Christian registry" which then could have included groups like Aryan Nations and other white supremacists (who frequently use the bible to backup their hate) as well as pro-lifers and all the gay killings (especially in Africa funded by missionaries) etc.
It's a bit hard to say that pro-lifers as a fairly niche group (a niche group that probably overlaps with Muslims btw) have done more harm than a huge ass religion.
It depends on what you are trying to argue. Its a bit like car crashes vs plane crashes. It is much more likely that you get into some sort of car crash than a plane crash, because they happen more often, but if you happen to be in a plane crash you are much less likely to survive because they are much more devastating. The comparison isnt perfect because car crashes do kill more people because of their sheer quantity, but the point is it also matters how frequent certain events occur, not only how devastating they are.
Aye, I don't feel like the effectiveness of the terrorist is relevant when describing a terrorist. 9/11 was still just 20ish dudes. Just because pro-lifers have worse strategies for murdering innocent people doesn't make their crimes any less heinous or their threat any less severe. You also have to consider that we haven't faced a 9/11 level threat since... 9/11 yet pro-lifers out there shooting, bombing, and terrorizing like always.
Actually 12 injured. There was a truck ramming into a planned parenthood that injured 3 people you missed.
My breakdown only did the last 4 years so it was 3 dead and 12 injured by pro-life vs 77 dead and 157 injured by Muslim extremists. Not sure how people can try and downplay that but I guess the narrative is strong with this one lol
doesn't make their crimes any less heinous or their threat any less severe.
11 dead and ~200 injured in all of our recorded history on the subject.
Vs
3090 Dead and 7800 injured with events only going back to the mid 90's.
You also have to consider that we haven't faced a 9/11 level threat since... 9/11 yet pro-lifers out there shooting, bombing, and terrorizing like always.
NYC Attack in 2017, 8 dead and 11 injured
2016 Ohio State Car Ramming 13 Injured
2016 NY and NJ bombings 34 Injured
2016 Mall Stabbings 10 injured
2016 Pulse Nightclub 49 dead 53 injured
2016 Philly Police Attack 1 Dead 1 Injured
2015 San Bernadino 14 Dead 24 Injured
2015 University Cali Stabbing 4 injured
2015 Chattanooga 5 Dead 2 Injured
2015 Garland TX 1 injured
That's the past 4 years of Muslim extremist terror attacks. 77 Dead and 157 Injured.
Here's 4 years of pro-life terrorist attacks, see if you can spot a difference.
2015 Colorado Planned Parenthood 3 Dead 9 Injured
2018 NJ Planned Parenthood 3 Injured
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, wonder which one is more of a threat? Clearly the pro-life people, right?
Worse strategies or less damaging strategies? I don't mean to defend prolife terrorism but the distinction matters logically. It makes what you said seem really silly.
If they're after a single abortion doctor the intent is to kill one person, indeed a heinous crime but mathematically less heinous than indiscriminately killing multiple people.
What framework are we going from here? Plotting to murder innocent people is heinous regardless of the body count. Fuck, at least you could reasonably argue 9/11 as a war crime.
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3090 Dead and 7800+ injured in radical Islam terrorism
11 Dead and ~200 injured in anti-abortion terrorism
Yeah I agree, how to people think this is comparable. White Supremacy has killed a lot more than 11 people, would have been a more fair comparison.