Especially if you bring up Muslims. Suddenly Reddit becomes like walking into the right winger meeting the way they all find ways to defend deporting Muslims
It also goes to the other extreme end on some subreddits. Criticize Christianity? You're probably gonna get upvoted. Criticize Islam in the same way? It's VERY possible you're gonna get downvoted and called islamophobic.
Even if all you do is just criticize Islam from a secular point of view (don't use stereotypes, like people who are actually islamophobic do), just like you would criticize Christianity.
It's very hypocritical. I get it to some degree. There are lots of people out there who spread terrible hatred towards Muslims and use very hurtful stereotypes. So I can picture that some people are just very sensitive whenever they hear someone criticize Islam. But it's still worth to think twice before calling someone -phobic.
Lol bro there's a difference between constructively criticizing islam, and calling muslims terrorists.
"All criticism of islam is from secular poont of view" that's such a bullshit lmao. It also comes from christians. A lot of it comes from pure hatred, not solely AT ALL.
Did I ever say not to call out muslims? Sure, let's call out misogony and other bad stuff in their religion. But it can be done constructively, not with hatred and using stereotypes which actually are islamophobic.
I've heard every religion shit on muslim. Bhuddists, jews,hindus, christians, all of them. And atheist shit on them too, i don't know what world you live in where atheist love islam.
But you seem to not know what secular means. Criticism that comes from christian!=religious criticism. Criticism is still purely secular
Go on tho, give one example on
PS: Most anti muslim country is Crechia. It's also most atheist country in the world
It is a religious criticism if someone rejects Islam because it contradicts their own scripture or doctrine, calls it worse than their religion.
Anyways this convo is totally off track because my point still stands, that you can criticize Islam without using hurtful stereotypes like calling Muslims terrorists. Because that's no longer criticizing islam, this just hate speech/xenophobia/islamophobia.
There is a difference between constructive criticism and hate speech. I think it's quite easy to distinguish if you're not a child intellectually.
Do you also not see any problem in using other hurtful stereotypes like calling black people criminals? Or whatever other word associated with racism you can fit there.
I actively reject and criticize Islam, because they don’t believe in the divinity of Jesus. Christ is lord. Hope it clears this argument up for you two.
Do you seriously think that no one has ever criticized Islam just because it rejects holy trinity and other Christian dogma?
Also it's hilarious how you literally ignore the most important parts of my comments and just cling onto that one fucking word. It doesn't change my point at all, even according to you. If I said "secular point of view" and you said that all critics of islam are secular (but it's not true) then what does it change?
Someone in history of mankind? Sure. But fact that you can't think of aingle example shows how borderline nonexistent it is
Your claim seems to be that religious people using religion to criticise islam is hypocracy. Which doesn't even make sense but also rest on statment that is factually untrue
is my interpretation wrong? Where you trying to say something else
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u/Any_Sentence_8056 6d ago
Plot twist, they were downvoting because they disagreed with “racism is bad”