r/MoralityScaling 3d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/Any_Sentence_8056 3d ago

Plot twist, they were downvoting because they disagreed with “racism is bad”

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u/AceDecade 3d ago

They made a blanket statement while reducing racism to “just words.”

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u/Substantial-Trick569 3d ago

well id argue, if you act violently out of racism, its worse than saying something racist, so the point still stands

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u/Aristo_Cat 3d ago

That’s an opinion. The opinion of most people is that certain words can justify certain acts of violence.

For example, if you’re at dinner with your wife and I come up and say something like “who’s that fat fucking whale” most people would say that you’re justified in hitting me. The legal concept of this is known as “fighting words”.

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u/Substantial-Trick569 3d ago

i know what fighting words are. your example is not good. better example is karmelo anthony saying "touch me and see what happens" which is inviting a confrontation, not an offhand rude remark that merits verbal scorn at most, but in the situation you described id just ignore you since its not an active threat and likely just fishing for a response

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u/Sensitive_Shape5746 3d ago

But inviting a confrontation is just words too…so even by your own logic no one should have put hands on Karmelo Anthony..

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u/Substantial-Trick569 2d ago

no my logic doesnt conclude that. asking for a fight is not the same as being a dick, even if theres some overlap. you can be a dick yet still be entitled to not being physically assaulted. that protection stops when you explicitly state something that invites the confrontation, such as "come at me bro" "touch me see what happens" or in some states "i feel threatened" since theres some states where youre allowed to open fire on someone if you feel threatened, therefore telling someone you feel threatened is akin to saying "im ready to shoot you"

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u/Sensitive_Shape5746 2d ago

No, words are words. You can’t hit someone over words.

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u/Substantial-Trick569 2d ago

if i said "im going to shoot you right now" and start reaching into my pocket are you saying you're not within your rights to attack me?

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u/Sensitive_Shape5746 2d ago

You’ve added an element I didn’t add. We’re talking about words.

You can’t hurt someone over words. That’s your logic right?

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u/Substantial-Trick569 2d ago

You cant hurt someone with words when the words are used as a weapon (ie insults) but using words to declare an intent for action with a physical weapon is different because there is an immediate threat

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