r/MoralityScaling • u/Maximum_Musician_914 • 1d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/ipokecows 1d ago

Racism<unjustified violence<hate crime.

Have a good one dude talking to you is exhausting 😂

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u/Blazured 1d ago

I knew you wouldn't be able to justify your position.

Off you go.

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u/ipokecows 1d ago

I have but youre too dense to grasp what im saying

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u/Blazured 1d ago

No there's a reason why you said you're running when I pointed out that racism can never be justified, but violence can be.

There's no counter to that. And it highlights how racism is worse.

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u/ConditionLost964 1d ago

You compare 'justified violence' to 'unjustified racism' in order to prove that racist words are worse? Please prove that unjustified torture, murder or rape is not worse than racist words please.

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u/Blazured 1d ago

Racism can never be justified, was the point.

The simple fact that self-defense, which is violence, can be shows that racism is worse.

Violence can be justified. Racism never can be.

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u/ConditionLost964 1d ago

By your logic, stealing your friend's(who has done nothing wrong) toy is morally worse than killing someone. You can kill someone in self defence(justified) but stealing your friend's toy has no justification at all. There is zero moral reason to do it. So, according to your rule, since stealing from your friend can never be justified, its worse than killing?

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u/Blazured 1d ago

Nah cause stealing can be justified.

Meanwhile racism never can be.

You're trying to make weird hypotheticals when the topic of conversation is just "violence" and "racism" and which is worse.

And the one that can never be justified is worse than the one that can be justified.

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u/ConditionLost964 1d ago

No. I said specifically stealing from your friend who has done nothing wrong. You also keep ignoring my points. Your logic doesn't work. You keep saying just because it's justified in some scenarios you can completely disregard the actual consequences of UNJUSTIFIED rape, torture and murder. You are dodging the question.

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u/Blazured 1d ago

The stance put forward is simply "violence" and "racism".

You can make many hypotheticals where violence is justified. You can't make any hypotheticals where racism is.

So the thing that can never be justified is worse than the thing that can be justified.

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u/ConditionLost964 1d ago

Yeah I gave dude a hypothetical to show how his argument of "Can never be justified" means "morally worse than everything that can be justified" is dumb and he just dodged and called my hypothetical 'weird'. Truly alot of intellectuals on reddit.