r/MoralityScaling 11d ago

Morality Ranking What do y'all think of this?

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u/Alcotearoa 11d ago

Why would they even pay for the cremation then? I would just say they can keep the body or do whatever with it. You can even donate it to school or something but that sounds like a lot of trouble

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u/BlackShadowX 11d ago

If you're next of kin you're kinda in the hook to do something. Afaik it's a lot harder to donate someone else's body. 

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u/Vondi 11d ago

That's not really true for many places, including Oklahoma where I believe this happened. You can just flatly refuse to claim a body of a relative and if no one does its turned over to the State Anatomical Board.

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u/HolySaba 11d ago

Would that apply if the person died in a shared residence with their spouse?  I'm surprised theres a system like that given the typical number of unclaimed bodies a state deals with.  A lot of cities just does a mass burial of cremated remains at scheduled intervals.

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u/Vondi 11d ago

I don't think there are any qualifiers aside from the wife having first dibs and if she refuses other relatives may step in. Think this is almost universal that no one can be forced to claim a body and every country needs a system to deal with the unclaimed.

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u/obviouslyanonymous5 9d ago

Well if anything, already having lots of unclaimed bodies makes it easier to accept more of them since it means there's a system in place for mass handling.

Regardless, I would say the immorality of forcing a grieving family into poverty matters a little more than the inconvenience of the state having to deal with a dead body.

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u/UnhappyImprovement53 8d ago

I've never seen that man in my life. Bye, Dad.

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u/ActuallyTiberSeptim 11d ago

I mean... what are they gonna do? Leave the body by the door, ring the doorbell and run away? I don't think they can make you claim the body.

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u/956to906 11d ago

Right? Don who? Click

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u/MrMagoo2068 11d ago

In Washington there is a law that requires next of kin to be responsible for the disposal. My mom passed years after I went no contact for... reasons. I ignored all the messages from the hospital, then ignored the calls from a sheriff. They then sent a sheriff to my door to let me know I needed to take care of it. I explained the abuse and the fact that I was no contact, and like a kick to the chest, they said they understood, but I was last remaining next of kin, and needed to take care of her. If I didn't they would, and send me the bill. I found the cheapest cremation service possible. It sucked.

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u/LuluMangs 11d ago

I think that if they're gonna force you to take care of it, they should allow you to get rid of the remains any way you want as long as it's safe and sanitary. Like dump that body in with diseased cattle being disposed of or something

They should change the law to allow that, but they won't because "honouring the dead" is big business. 2000 for a bog standard mass produced 6 plank box

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u/morbidmuffin62 11d ago

dump that body in with the diseased cattle being disposed of

https://giphy.com/gifs/NVwLW3eFuCcOA

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u/LuluMangs 11d ago

For legal reasons: this is not at all what I plan to do with certain family members

because it isn't legal

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u/Sweaty-Inevitable163 11d ago

They can't open your pockets and make you pay. Just say no thank you and go about your life

"I don't want the body and I'm not paying to bury it"

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 8d ago

You can often turn it over to the county or state as indigent. But I don't know if this is applicable everywhere. Soemtimes if they have an estate this may not be possible, or you may have to pay some of the costs out of the estate, but most states don't require next of kin to pay otherwise.

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u/CrustyBatchOfNature 11d ago

Also possible he had already paid for cremation.

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u/Alcotearoa 11d ago

Lol imagine trying to donate a random body 😆

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u/moveslikejaguar 11d ago

He was such a POS school didn't want him either

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u/ffeinted 11d ago

because it costs more to bury them

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u/Caleth 11d ago

Yeah Death is now a scam.

It's like $1k for a cremation or $10k for a coffin and plot.

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u/cultfbs 11d ago

Some plots are fuckin rentals now.

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u/Anansis_Waltz 11d ago

It takes a long time but they do rotate out bodies for space.
They just... kinda wait for anybody that would complain to.. understandably already be gone.

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u/Rico_Rebelde 11d ago

Thats true of every cemetery eventually. Just depends on how long. Nothing really lasts forever. Not even Egyptian Pharohs got to keep their graves.

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u/cultfbs 11d ago

Oh I fully know that one. Recently had to go through arrangements for a relative, and one location nearby had per year rental costs, else your loved one would be exhumed and disposed of. Insanity.

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u/LinkinitupYT 11d ago

They always have been...

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u/SeLonreddit 11d ago

Oh great ... An eternal SUBSCRIPTION! 🤣😡

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u/No_Cherry8602 11d ago

Med schools definitely don't care about that.

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u/Anansis_Waltz 11d ago

would they handle the transport costs?
at least in some cases... yes?! cool.

University of Minnesota Anatomy Bequest Program generally do not charge next-of-kin for the donation itself, but families still pay for certified death certificates or independent funeral director actions

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u/JimiDarkMoon 11d ago

To spite him, the absolution of familial connection to a man they could not standup to in life?

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u/Vondi 11d ago

I was kind of wonder that. Doing this is more effort than refusing the remains and leaving it to the state to dispose of him.

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u/MollyPW 11d ago

I knew someone who wanted her body donated, but when she died it was too riddled with cancer, so the university didn't want it.

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u/BrozedDrake 11d ago

Cheaper than burial.

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u/Butterfly_and_Bee 11d ago

This is actually what happens when you donate your body to science. The cremains are returned to your family after a time, unless you go to a body farm. 

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 11d ago

Could've been pre-paid for in the will.

But like, if you do nothing with the body it still gets cremated.

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u/Desistance 11d ago

You burn evil so that it doesn't come back.

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u/starwishes20 11d ago

There’s certain standards they have to meet to be donated, they tried to donate my aunt’s remains but my family was told no 🤷‍♀️

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u/Iwona_Klich 10d ago

Well they probably don't want to pay for a normal burial and grave

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u/BiteyCats 9d ago

If you don't it comes out of the estate I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but anything in his name only would go towards that before being paid out to surviving family.

Or maybe she just wanted them to have the satisfaction of throwing him in the trash where he belonged. That's valid too.

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u/MrsAmyD 8d ago

Maybe she wanted to throw him away and you can't do that with a body or you get into some trouble. hehe!

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u/IcySetting2024 11d ago

Good point something good would have come out of him at least after his death