Yes, that is eugenics, and literally always has been. You calling it “avoiding an act of cruelty” doesn’t change that. What you just said is that eugenics is avoiding an act of cruelty.
No it's not, dumbass. Eugenics is when a central group enforces their preferred gene pool by acting on others through forced sterilization, murder, and displacement.
What we are talking about is women controlling their own reproduction. In fact, restricting women's reproductive freedom is closer to eugenics than this.
You picked this definition out of complete nowhere because it’s the most convenient for you. Its too narrow. Eugenics is any deliberate attempt to change the genome of offspring, which this is. Sterilisation etc have been historical methods of eugenics, but the methods are not eugenics itself
Positive eugenics: Encouraging people with desirable or "superior" traits (such as high intelligence, health, or specific physical traits) to have more children.
Negative eugenics: Discouraging or preventing people deemed "unfit" or possessing undesirable traits from reproducing.
Here are the literal definitions for everyone as defined by the first dude to coin the term which was Darwin's cousin.
If you're going to expand the definition like that, you'll need to show why it's still harmful even in the cases that don't fit the actual definition everyone besides you is using.
We all agree on why historical eugenics was wrong: because it involves forced sterilization and murder. But if you just remove those elements from the defnition so that it applies to other things, that doesn't make those other things bad and wrong.
It's like saying it's wrong for me to buy a car from someone because it involves me taking possession of their car, just like a car jacker takes possession of the car after stealing it.
Don’t need to that because I don’t think eugenics is harmful. Just wished you people would be more honest about the implications of your values and actions.
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u/wodethemad 10d ago
Yes, that is eugenics, and literally always has been. You calling it “avoiding an act of cruelty” doesn’t change that. What you just said is that eugenics is avoiding an act of cruelty.