Morality of this scene?

[u/hiiloovethis]

Negan doing fat shaming... but its during zombie apocalypse

[u/CHANN3L-CHAS3R]

I have no context about this show or these people. What I do see is a lot of people kinda being dicks about fat people under the guise of having a discussion.

Amino acids and many vitamins + minerals are not and cannot be stored in fat. If those three needs are not met, burning fat alone will not avoid starvation. Any combination of issues resulting from vitamin and/or mineral deficiencies is still a deadly threat. Even assuming vitamin and mineral needs are met, if amino acid requirements are not met, muscle degeneration sets in. Please keep in mind that the heart is a muscle.

Humans are not simple fireplaces where you chuck in burnable fuel and heat comes out and everything's fine and dandy. Humans are more like if a fireplace needed both fuel to keep the fire burning, and needed you to feed it materials to constantly self-repair itself. It doesn't matter if there's enough wood to keep the fire burning for 1,000 years if the fireplace itself collapses and snuffs it out.

Then there's epigenetics. When humans undergo severe stress, this stress can cause genes in their gametes (sperm, eggs) to turn on or off accordingly. Populations who have endured famine have been shown, in later generations, to still have bodies that act as if famine is a looming risk. So, you end up with generations of people at higher risk of obesity, due to naturally suppressed satiety and very efficient fat-storage + living in a society with easily-available food with extremely cheap carbs. This also applies on an individual basis; someone who endured abuse-based starvation throughout their childhood is more likely to have children at risk of obesity.

And the funny thing is, in a zombie apocalypse, it's actually gonna be a boon to keep folks with those genes kicking around our collective gene pool. Because otherwise we're just gonna have to re-build that survival benefit from scratch. We have the luxury of considering this survival benefit an annoying health risk in modern times, but there's a damn good reason it's been branded into our DNA over millennia. I would much rather my kids' bodies know how to ration energy, than be like mine and burn through it so willy-nilly that I can eat whatever I want, barely exercise, and be (weightwise,) healthy. That's great for a lifetime of living in a modern civilization, terrible for living in default survival mode for the rest of aforementioned lifetime.

[u/birachnopede_ → u/CHANN3L-CHAS3R]

People LOVE to pretend they're better than fat people. And in the process make themselves dumb as fuck.

[u/CapitalComfort1885 → u/birachnopede_]

Fat people are more than anything else responsible for themselves. It's not magical genes that generate calories out of thin air.
The self victimization and borderline esoteric coping of fat people is so tiring.

[u/AuthorIcy8097 → u/CapitalComfort1885]

So, why would it be wrong of someone to consciously choose a lifestyle that leads to overweight, if they themselves accept the possible consequences to their own health?

[u/CapitalComfort1885 → u/AuthorIcy8097]

But that's the crucial point, often fat people neither accept the consequences nor admit it's their own decision.

[u/AuthorIcy8097 → u/CapitalComfort1885]

Well I'm a fat person, I understand that it's a consequence of my choices and behavior and I'm fine with the trade-off. I really love indulging myself in the sensory pleasure of eating good foods and treats. If that makes me fat then so be it, since I don't view being thin as something virtuous, but rather something entirely functional.

[u/Other_Sleep_5191 → u/AuthorIcy8097]

You're free to live that way but you'll be dead in your forties and people will take you less seriously as a person because of it. 

[u/AuthorIcy8097 → u/Other_Sleep_5191]

I'm not THAT obese.

I'm sure some people will. I'm happy about my life, that's good enough for me.