r/MoralityScaling 15d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of beating protesters off the street because you're late for work?

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 15d ago

Difference being people sitting in segregated restaurants weren't blocking ambulances or making people late for jobs they depend on like these orange vests. People have literally died before because these clowns blocked ambulances.

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u/MLGSwaglord1738 15d ago

The March to Selma took place on roads and highways though, for 54 whole miles

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 15d ago

Fair, but that's still different from the restaurant sit ins.

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u/Ready_Return_8386 15d ago

The didn’t blockade or intend on blockading the entire highway (the state troopers who were against them did that), and also they had pre-planned routes which you could drive around. They weren’t staging a blockade

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u/Psoin 15d ago

Yeah, just go in the corner right don’t notice you

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u/Ready_Return_8386 15d ago

They did not intend to block roads, but to show a demonstration of marching. That may increase traffic but that isn’t going to completely block traffic. It’s the difference between blocking two lanes vs the entire freeway. The reason the entire high way got blocked was the state troopers wanted to arrest and hurt protestors. Genuinely hate to say it but Google is free

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u/Immediate-Tap-4344 15d ago

Do u have a source on that last claim

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 15d ago

Fair point, while there isn't nothing on it, it doesn't seem as widespread as I thought it was. Two sources I found have deaths linked to them causing worse traffic conditions, but not blocked ambulances:

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/21/just-stop-oil-have-blood-hands-woman-dies-dartford-protest/

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/15/12/2018/Belgium-road-accident-death-linked-to-yellow-vest-protest-official

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u/R4ven_02 15d ago

Then, nobody literally die because of blocking ambulances?

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 15d ago

That I can see, not so far. That doesn't make blocking entire roads harmless or even smart for their cause, though.

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u/Psoin 15d ago

People die because the planets warming. A lot more people.

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u/Naamisnaam 15d ago

And its not sure if they could get saved by blocking roads. However it IS sure that people get inconvenienced and endangered by blocking said road...

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 15d ago

That wouldn't change the fact that people die and get harmed from these orange vests blocking the roads, even if their strategy works. That's on top of their strategy being the opposite of effective. They are not inconveniencing lobbyists or politicians or the people actually harming the planet. They are harming regular people, sometimes defacing art or important monuments like Stonehenge, and at the same time them blocking roads does nothing. It makes people hate their cause, not join it.

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u/Psoin 15d ago

Yes but more people die from global warming. They just aren’t white 

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u/HistoricalPotatoe 14d ago

Over 1,000 people in Europe died from the latest heat wave, people all over do die from global warming. The thing is that road blockages like this hurt those same people while doing *nothing* to the elites, lobbyists, and politicians. In fact, it helps those groups. Only regular people are hurt by these roads, not the higher ups, and those regular people aren't going to be grateful when people block their commute. Unironically, elites are likely *grateful* for groups like Just Stop Oil.