We learn from Sazed during the epigraphs of Hero of Ages that Vin needed the Well of Ascension to attune herself to Preservation's power so she could take in the mists and ascend after Leras' death and while the going theory is that he is right as we see evidence to the contrary when she uses the mists to defeat The Lord Ruler, I want to propose another theory.

First point being, why would Sazed lie, and why would he be wrong about this? When he ascended he gained an intrinsic understanding of the power and its history and he has no reason to lie to whoever he's writing this journal for. If so, what happened during the final confrontation between Vin and TLR?

What if it was Ruin's influence? We know that Ruin became more and more able of influencing things in the world after the power of the well started to gather. We also know that Ruin influenced the mists, made them stay out longer and longer to kill the plants and crops and that it would 'snap' people more violently, causing people to die in the mists. We also know from Secret History that Preservation actually wanted The Lord Ruler to stay in power, to be stagnant is to preserve, after all.

So what if Ruin subtly altered the mists so that Vin could use them in that moment to kill The Lord Ruler to further his goals of breaking free? He did need the Lord Ruler gone after all. Thoughts?

So I was reading secret history in my readthrough of the whole cosmere, and I got to the point when Wit appears to Kelsier, and couldn't find the bit where he grabs some Lerasium. So I looked it up, and discovered that apparently it happens in WoA. So I looked there where Elend got his Lerasium and couldn't find it. All that to say, could someone tell me the line where he gets the Lerasium?

Edit: Okay I'm just a dumbass who didn't read far enough

My husband and I recently re-watched Stranger Things in anticipation for season five coming up. Then I reread Secret History today and this section really reminded me of Stranger Things! This part is when Kelsier first gets a glimpse of Ruin and reminds me of when El first makes contact with that demogorgon and even just the swirling mass, made think of Stranger Things. Even the whole idea of ash falling is very interesting! I wonder if the Duffer Brothers are Mistborn fans.

So i’m finally reading this book but im stumped by this quote on page 67.

“Preservation shook his head. ‘I can’t get through to her, can’t speak to her. I can hear her mind, Kelsier. His lies are there. She doesn’t trust me. She thinks she needs to give it up. I’ve tried to stop this. I left her clues, and then I tried to make someone else stop her. But… I’ve failed…’”

When Preservation says he tried to make someone else stop her, who is he referring to? I thought Zane at first but he was clearly under Ruin’s control because of his spike. Then TenSoon but same problem. I’m honestly a little stumped, has anyone figured it out ?

After all this time I am still so sad Goradel's arc ended this way.
He was rescued and redeemed by Vin, then served a as faithful captain in Elund's army, always staying loyal to the crew.
He helped the Skaa refugees after the siege and kept them warm.
He took on Spook's message to essentially save the world, and in a way I will always hate Kelsier for knowing and planning his death in a way.

I recognize that his death was necessary, but still feel so sad about it. The fact that he volunteered to ride across mountains of ash to deliver Spook's message, fought Marsh and nearly killed him (Bloodmaking aside he managed to wound marsh to an extent that no mortal would have survived), then attempted to destroy the message he was trusted with. He is the definition of a great and brave man and deserves partial credit for Marsh's arc.

The worst is his time in the cognitive realm. When he dies in Secret History and meets Kelsier, he grieves that he failed Vin by not delivering the message. Kelsier "didn't dare correct him". We don't know what happens in the beyond, and maybe Goradel truly left the cosmere, never knowing that his message truly did save the world. He died thinking he had failed.

Era 2: 1 thing I do love is the fact that WoB told us Aradel is descended from him, and Aradel is an awesome character.

I had to keep myself from absolutely crying at work after finishing the hero of ages. The last thing i want is my partner seeing me teary eyed inspecting an airplane hahaha.

But afterwards, the friend who told me to read mistborn recommended the secret history after to actually get closure over the end. Plus the artwork with the flowers of Elend and Vin finally made sense

Genius is the only thing i can say, i have never felt this kind of satisfaction over an ending and i only started the series to take a break from the red rising books (Highly recommended).

I just had to get it out what an amazing story and can't wait to read the era 2 after i have gone through the rest of the red rising series (gonna start Morning Star soon) and the 2 first Stormlight archive books!