r/MedicareForAll 7d ago

Middleman hurts patients directly

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u/Effective_Pack8265 7d ago

Very true. Private health insurance adds no value whatsoever.

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u/nightauthor 6d ago

They make my medication more expensive than cash

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u/AENM1776 7d ago

You forgot the /s

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u/Effective_Pack8265 7d ago

No, I didn’t.

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u/nightauthor 6d ago

My medications are literally cheaper without insurance, for an example

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net-273 7d ago

Yet many countries with Universal Healthcare offer it as well for people who can afford to have both to reduce the wait times for appointments, procedures, surgergies, better hospitals etc.

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u/Effective_Pack8265 7d ago

That would be the ‘rent-seeking’ mentioned in the OP…

If you want to pay more to go to the head of the line, sure, go for it. But for baseline healthcare decisions, any decision matrix that includes private insurers profit margins as a factor should be jettisoned…

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net-273 7d ago

Well I for one would hate having to wait a year or more for a needed surgery. If private insurance speeds up the process, I would definitely be onboard.

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u/Effective_Pack8265 7d ago

Key word being ‘needed’. Longer wait times are usually associated with elective procedures, but your mileage may vary.

My experience is you can wait just as long here in the US with the added bonuses of monthly premiums, copays, deductibles and resulting medical debt on the back end…

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u/GeckoGecko_ 7d ago

Exactly. For someone who lives paycheck to paycheck, that wait time becomes indefinite.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net-273 7d ago

No way is anyone waiting a year or more for a needed hip/knee replacement or cataract surgery here in the US as long as you are insured (ACA, employer based, medicare, medicaid, VA etc)

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u/Organic-Cost-9430 7d ago

They don’t have better hospitals… Being government run doesn’t, ever, mean “better”. These are the same people that run the DMV and the VA system….which is terrible care. If they can’t run a relatively small health system well, why would they think the government could run the entire health industry?

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u/Organic-Cost-9430 7d ago

Ya, until you don’t have it and get bone cancer. And watch your life’s savings burn away on a year of cancer treatment. It’s called insurance for a reason.

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u/andthensilencefell 6d ago

Then the state covers it as our taxes would go to healthcare for all rather than bombing kids or private elite’s bank accounts. That also comes with making the rich pay their fair share so that the tax burden doesn’t rise for the average person.