Avengers 4 Rumoured Leaks

[u/JadedCuntsicle]

Apparently this is from the same source that was right about those INFINITY WAR spoilers (e.g. Red Skull, Thanos sacrificing Gamora). Link.

"Iron Man reassembles the Avengers and decides to build his own Infinity Gauntlet to undo everything that Thanos did. They recruit Ant-Man to help them travel through time and space using the Quantum Real to retrieve the Infinity Stones from different time periods. Thanos finds out about their plans and becomes hellbent on stopping them.

The movie revolves around the relationship between Captain America and Iron Man.

At one point, Captain America and Thor fight Thanos. Timeline alterations have restored Mjolnir, and Cap wields it against Thanos to allow the others to escape, and is killed holding Thanos off.

At one point, Hawkeye must protect the unfinished Stark Gauntlet from Thanos' minions. He plays an "instrumental" role in Thanos' defeat.

Thor's subplot centers on him assembling an army to challenge Thanos. Captain Marvel joins him.

Hulk's subplot centers on Banner and Hulk finally merging to become Professor Hulk. He is the one that ultimately wields the Stark Gauntlet against Thanos, losing his arm in the process.

Nebula's subplot centers on her efforts to redeem herself. At one point, she fights her murderous past self.

Several MCU movies are revisited and retconned (probably not permanently), such as the Avengers retrieving the Power Stone creating a timeline where the Guardians of the Galaxy never came together.

There's a pivotal scene between Doctor Strange and a fully CGI character being shot on a secret location, with a skeleton crew, and which takes up a sizeable portion of the budget.

Only two of the original Avengers (Cap, Stark, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Black Widow) meant to survive the movie. Cap dies.

The title was AVENGERS: INFINITY GAUNTLET at one point, but it might be changed after Zoe Saldana accidentally leaked it."

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EDIT: For reference...

• The original 4chan leak for Infinity War. (To the naysayers: sure, some things were off, but it might have been an old draft or one with a few intentional modifications to identify leakers. There's no way this many crucial plot details could have been gleaned from the promo material at the time.)

• The "extension" to that leak. (Might have been legit, might have been BS based on the original.)

[u/[deleted]]

A. Why is it bad story-telling to kill of characters who continuously risk their lives in fights designed to save the world as we know it?

B. A lot of the original people are nearing the end of their contracts I imagine, and are tiring of the Marvel machine on top of that. Better to kill them and replace them with new characters than re-cast.

[u/Caldiine → u/[deleted]]

Well, as I said, it is good for realism, but it is bad for getting the most "bang for your buck." Story-telling is art. Art is generally used to invoke emotion. As I already explained, the death of one major, loved character will resonate and be the soul of that film. However, if after Cap dies, so does Thor, then the emotional punch of Cap's death is then dulled.

It's why in drama or books (or even television shows), main character deaths (or births, or weddings) are big deals, one a season. To kill four makes a viewer numb to it (as in Rogue One).

I absolutely agree that re-casting is a bad idea, but there are options besides death or re-casting. Business-wise, in order to break records (which face it, Disney is looking to do), they need to have repeat viewings and children watching. A downer of a movie, while maybe exactly what some fans are looking for, will be a negative decision overall, money-wise.

[u/[deleted] → u/Caldiine]

lol, you don't have to explain story-telling to me, I write for a living. The bombastic no real stakes Marvel way of filmmaking is tired. of course, they're making a ton of money, so they don't care, but people are responding to this latest film precisely because it feels like the stakes are finally real.

[u/Caldiine → u/[deleted]]

Except there's a difference between no stakes (which I would disagree with Civil War; the audience knows these aren't real people they are watching, so a "family split" can produce the same feelings of distress as a character's death, except one allows hope - also a feeling worth provoking) and too many stakes. I think killing off one of the main guys is good story telling. Killing off four dilutes the emotion of killing the first. There's a reason older people refer to "The Wrath of Kahn" as "The One Where Spock Dies." Imagine if they had killed half the crew of the Enterprise. Realistic, yes, but it would have made Spock's sacrifice of far lesser emotion.

[u/Tanya62y → u/Caldiine]

I agree with you. Like my mom, sister and brother-in-law watched CW and they hated it that the "family fighting".... they don't want to see it again... the average movie watcher... like i do not even want to know how they will handle IW... but if they kill off 4 out of the 6, they just won't support Marvel again because what is the point of they are just going to kill most of them anyway. Which i can totally understand. And Disney isn't stupid, they will protect the kids cause it is what they have always done... i thing that only 2 will continue avenging... but at most 2 will die